South Africa tour of England, May - Aug 2017

[AfricanTech]

Pity for JP. I've always been a fan of his, and do feel for him. However, the blame lies squarely on the shoulders of the selectors for persisting with him.

JP has disappointed too many times - scores when the team doesn't really need it; fails when the team needs him.

 

[Pom_in_Pretoria]

"I thought it would be sorted out before 22 years had passed," he said...

I am pretty sure it has been 'sorted out' considering the Jaapies spent much of the last 6/7 years either at the top of the test rankings and most of it in the top 3. They were a fantastic team for a very long time.

Every time the Jaapies get a hiding some tired oldie wheels out the race card as 'the only' reason. Old habits and all that...

 

[Pom_in_Pretoria]

I'd be interested to see how many more tests Bavuma will be given before he gets the axe. He has to come good.
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I agree. He was however your best batsman in the 1st test, although this was akin to winning a tallest dwarf contest.

 

[Baxteen]

I think Bavuma will go on to do great things, he has great potential, and it feels like he is slightly better than the other new talent coming up the ranks.

Bavuma will go on to score at least 6000 runs for South Africa. I do not see him as an 8K test runs player, like QDK, but 6K I can see happen.

KG will go on and take 400+ wickets. I think we can all agree there.

 

[pinball wizard]

KG will go on and take 400+ wickets. I think we can all agree there.

Unless his anger turns him into a rapist like that other token bowler and this time bacher can't buy him out of trouble?

 

[pinball wizard]

Holy crap, someone feels sorry for JP?

 

[Baxteen]

Unless his anger turns him into a rapist like that other token bowler and this time bacher can't buy him out of trouble?

the other token bowler did not have this much talent.
most of his wickets came due to pressure created from the raw talent on the other end.

in case anyone did not know, I was never a fan of Ntini, and him commentating games is what made me take a break from cricket for years.

 

[pinball wizard]

the other token bowler did not have this much talent.
most of his wickets came due to pressure created from the raw talent on the other end.

in case anyone did not know, I was never a fan of Ntini, and him commentating games is what made me take a break from cricket for years.

Agree on both points.

 

[Agent_Smith]

10.30am Toss time! South Africa won the toss and decide to bat. Faf du Plessis says it was a tricky decision with the cloud cover. Chris Morris comes into the XI at the expense of de Bruyn so a deeper bowling attack for South Africa

Job 1 done

 

[DanDango]

10.30am Toss time! South Africa won the toss and decide to bat. Faf du Plessis says it was a tricky decision with the cloud cover. Chris Morris comes into the XI at the expense of de Bruyn so a deeper bowling attack for South Africa

 

[Dan C]

10.30am Toss time! South Africa won the toss and decide to bat. Faf du Plessis says it was a tricky decision with the cloud cover. Chris Morris comes into the XI at the expense of de Bruyn so a deeper bowling attack for South Africa

Not sure batting first was the correct decision. But let's see.

 

[Dan C]

England Team
AN Cook, KK Jennings, GS Ballance, JE Root*, JM Bairstow†, BA Stokes, MM Ali, LA Dawson, SCJ Broad, MA Wood, JM Anderson

South Africa Team
HG Kuhn, D Elgar, HM Amla, F du Plessis*, T Bavuma, Q de Kock†, CH Morris, VD Philander, KA Maharaj, D Olivier, M Morkel

 

[sox63]

I was hoping we bowl first personally. Give Olivier the chance to show what he can do in these conditions.

 

[pinball wizard]

Job 1 done

Not sure batting first was the correct decision. But let's see.

Joe Root says he would have bowled, "so I'm pretty happy."

Lets's see. I'm inclined to think paf made the wrong choice.

 

[Agent_Smith]

Hmm, it's the trade off of weathering (excuse the pun) the new ball in overcast conditions versus having to bat last on a wearing pitch. Rock and a hard place...

 

[pinball wizard]

Hmm, it's the trade off of weathering (excuse the pun) the new ball in overcast conditions versus having to bat last on a wearing pitch. Rock and a hard place...

Not if Root only bats once... Oh, wait, you were thinking that, and SA have to bat last. Good call mate.

 

[pinball wizard]

England Team
AN Cook, KK Jennings, GS Ballance, JE Root*, JM Bairstow†, BA Stokes, MM Ali, LA Dawson, SCJ Broad, MA Wood, JM Anderson

South Africa Team
HG Kuhn, D Elgar, HM Amla, F du Plessis*, T Bavuma, Q de Kock†, CH Morris, VD Philander, KA Maharaj, D Olivier, M Morkel

Is it just me that thinks the SA team looks a little light in experience?

 

[Baxteen]

we know this is a bowling friendly wicket.

so go in, get some runs on the board.
with QDK batting at number 4, this is going to be interesting.

I see us bowling before the end of the day, and I see less than 200 on the board.
but I see us going in and increasing a 20 or 30 run lead by lunch tommow.

Morkel will take 4 scalps(all left handers), and the other 6 wickets will be split between Oliver, Morris and Philander.

I say, SA all out for 230, eng all out for 200, SA all out for 180, eng all out for 160.

50's by Hash, Faf, QDK, Kuhn and elgar
Root,Stokes and Bairstow(twice)

bowling will be 6 total scalps for Morkel, 4 total for Olivier, 5 total for Morris and 5 total for Philander.
4 for wood, 4 for anderson, 4 for Stokes 4 for Dawson and 4 for Ali.

 

[pinball wizard]

This was a nice comment.

"That is a massive mistake by Faf. England's top order is already under pressure, there's nothing they would like less than facing Morkel, Philander and a (keen to impress, probably adrenaline heavy) Olivier. Now all the pressure is on South Africa. Can see why he might want to make a statement of intent but really, that's an error."

 

[DanDango]

Not sure batting first was the correct decision. But let's see.

+1

Philander and Olivier can both swing/steam a ball and it's cloudy there will be more swing.