South Africa tour of England, May - Aug 2017

pinball wizard

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we know this is a bowling friendly wicket.

so go in, get some runs on the board.
with QDK batting at number 4, this is going to be interesting.

I see us bowling before the end of the day, and I see less than 200 on the board.
but I see us going in and increasing a 20 or 30 run lead by lunch tommow.

Morkel will take 4 scalps(all left handers), and the other 6 wickets will be split between Oliver, Morris and Philander.

I say, SA all out for 230, eng all out for 200, SA all out for 180, eng all out for 160.

50's by Hash, Faf, QDK, Kuhn and elgar
Root,Stokes and Bairstow(twice)

bowling will be 6 total scalps for Morkel, 4 total for Olivier, 5 total for Morris and 5 total for Philander.
4 for wood, 4 for anderson, 4 for Stokes 4 for Dawson and 4 for Ali.

WTF bro?
 

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its going to be a low scoring game, and I think anything over 150 is a good score. for the first innings.
if we get 1 person over 50, we have won the session.
I was thinking 180 all out, then I sat down and looked at the team. sure we dont have experience, but it looks like a lot of the players will scrape together a fighting 30

I also think we bat really really deep. so that is how I got to 230 instead of below 200, never changed the first mention, as the thought evolved as I typed.
 

sox63

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The movement in the 1st over says its gonna be tough for us to make it through this session without at least 2 or 3 down imo
 

cenredash

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Yeah Graeme is talking shyte as most players are picked on merit, and even players of colour get dropped. Alviro was dropped before the scandal and was actually a better opener than Cook.

Going a few pages back regarding GPollock's observations. Not that I agree with the fellow but I think he was being a bit more subtle about how transformation will make us a middle of the road test team.

What I think he was saying, in part, was that it isn't so much the "players of colour" in the test team that were to blame for our middle of the road status. It was the whole approach to transformation at First Class level that didn't prepare the young black or white players for test match cricket, you know, like in the old days. It isn't strength vs strength at first class level strictly on merit that would allow players to get more backbone.

I always wonder about old cricketers and sportsmen in general. i read an article once about your average MMA fighter being able to pick apart Bruce Lee. And the logic is that with modern technology, training, and of course learning from history the modern fighter or sportsperson would outperform the older ones, who, if they didn't get all the modern technology, training and history.

Like i said, I don't agree with G Pollock. You can't judge a time while you're in the time, and you can't cherry pick success or failures from your 40 50 or 60 years of watching cricket .. choosing the best, and then comparing that with the team of today, at a moment in time.
 

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Anderson to Elgar, OUT, terrific catch! Liam Dawson at backward point. Full, wide outside off, Elgar reaches for it as he comes forward to drive, skews it in the air and Dawson takes a sharp one diving to his right. He'll be angry with that shot in these conditions

D Elgar c Dawson b Anderson 6 (19b 1x4 0x6) SR: 31.57

wtf Elgar
 

DanDango

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12.23pm Rain stopped play Well, that came from nowhere (apart from the skies, that is). A brief flurry ... and the players are still out there for the moment. Only the central cover in place at the moment. We should be back underway in no time
 

Baxteen

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and play is back.
and second ball was an LBW reiew that eng lost.
 

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Watched that downstairs...only ball I've seen today and it made me happy. Stokes was so adamant...hahaha. Kagiso says "Vat, rooikop".
 

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We did much better than I thought for that session. Dare I say we won it? Or honors even?
 

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We did much better than I thought for that session. Dare I say we won it? Or honors even?

Definitely ours with the conditions what they were. 70-30 if I had to put a number to it.

All wasted effort unless we can grind on in the afternoon and then make some runs against the older ball.
 

Baxteen

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I would give that session to SA.

I was expecting less than 50 runs and 3 wickets for this session to be honest
 

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Yup, definitely will take that session and run! Nicely setup for a QdK onslaught later!
 

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Kuhn gone ... and De Kock in.

I don't really like him at 4. I like to see a wicket keeper at open or at 7, like Gilchrist. Otherwise carrying too much responsibility.

at 7 he can accelerate but i have yet to see De Kock Blocker.
 

Baxteen

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Hash is not looking good.
feels like there is more movement after lunch....
 
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