South African Covid-19 News and Discussions 2

[daelm]

we might be saying the same thing. basically, i'd rather have the experts in the roles than read their views in the newspapers while the government blunders.

 

[BeerIsNotGood...]

we might be saying the same thing. basically, i'd rather have the experts in the roles than read their views in the newspapers while the government blunders.

The same with the exception that experts need to be realistic.

 

[Paulsie]

maybe, but when it comes to government, i'm a big fan of politicians being allowed to fill generalist positions but being barred from specialist positions. if we'd had qualified specialists in a number of critical roles (rather than jobs-for-friends) for the last fifteen years, the country would look different.

I think you are spot on. You can have an excellent business owner/entrepreneur without him/her having BCom. You can't however have a great general manager, without the dude having a thorough understanding about how that particular business functions. Ie you can run a good business, but cannot manage people in eskom, without knowing how power generation works

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

(Paywall): https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/n...hear-ff-challenge-to-disaster-management-act/

The high court in Pretoria will on Wednesday hear the Freedom Front Plus (FF+) challenge to the constitutionality of the Disaster Management Act and the validity of the decision to declare a national state of disaster.

It wants the court to declare the act unconstitutional and invalid because it is not subject to oversight by the National Assembly or judicial oversight.

The party’s leader, Pieter Groenewald, argued in court papers that the purpose of the restrictions had been achieved and they were no longer commensurate with the Covid-19 risk, meaning the failure to lift the lockdown was arbitrary and irrational.

He said the government had failed to take relevant facts and evidence into consideration and had taken irrelevant considerations into consideration.

The FF+ also argues that the measures put in place when the national state of disaster was declared constitute a state of emergency, which is subject to National Assembly oversight.

 

[Paulsie]

This from international thread...

Coronavirus: 'Major breakthrough' as UK scientists find £5 steroid cuts COVID-19 deaths

The drug, dexamethasone, reduced death rates by a third for patients on ventilators, and by a fifth for patients needing oxygen.

news.sky.com

So they use steroids to reduce inflammation. Interestingly enough there has also been research done into nicotine having anti-inflammatory properties.

Nicotine is an Anti-inflammatory Cure for H1N1 Flu Virus -- Sott.net

Vagus Nerve Stimulation Blocks Cytokine Storm of Swine Flu Nicotine has an anti-inflammatory effect via the vagus nerve, which is useful against many diseases, and perhaps may block the cytokine storm of the H1N1 swine flu. Nicotine stimulates...

www.sott.net

Do you remember the claims that smokers showed lower incidence in the severity of symptoms???

Perhaps government should be taken to court yet again for intentionally causing harm by banning smoking against advice

 

[dualmeister]

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[MiW]

 

[RedViking]

How many ventilators are currently in use?

Edit: nevermind

 

[R13...]

How many ventilators are currently in use?

Presumably as represented in the "ventilated" column?

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Coronavirus breakthrough drug is made in SA – and costs only R150 an injection | Businessinsider

Aspen manufactures the medicine in South Africa.

www.businessinsider.co.za

 

[Polymathic]

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No the WC numbers are meaningless as far as tracking the actual the rate of spread of the virus through the community

 

[MiW]

No the WC numbers are meaningless as far as tracking the actual the rate of spread of the virus through the community

We all know that the numbers don't reflect the reality. It beats me why people should mention that every day.

 

[RedViking]

Presumably as represented in the "ventilated" column?

My bad. I missed it there in the far right.

 

[Polymathic]

We all know that the numbers don't reflect the reality. It beats me why people should mention that every day.

The WC new methodology makes direct comparisons with other provinces pretty much useless when looking at the total numbers.

On the surface it seems that Gauteng is catching up to the Western Cape but when you look at the hospitalisations it paints a very different picture.

 

[pinball wizard]

This from international thread...

Coronavirus: 'Major breakthrough' as UK scientists find £5 steroid cuts COVID-19 deaths

The drug, dexamethasone, reduced death rates by a third for patients on ventilators, and by a fifth for patients needing oxygen.

news.sky.com

So they use steroids to reduce inflammation. Interestingly enough there has also been research done into nicotine having anti-inflammatory properties.

Do you remember back in March the WHO said DON"T USE STEROIDS TO TREAT COVID?

 

[noxibox]

Limited government based on lite technocracy/meritocracy for me

Merit is always subjective. Objective measures are seldom of much practical use. Technocracy sounds like a good idea in theory, but it doesn't work well in practice.

we might be saying the same thing. basically, i'd rather have the experts in the roles than read their views in the newspapers while the government blunders.

But which experts? If you have them all then you just have a committee.

You can't however have a great general manager, without the dude having a thorough understanding about how that particular business functions. Ie you can run a good business, but cannot manage people in eskom, without knowing how power generation works

You can certainly manage people at Eskom without knowing anything about power generation. The only reason that goes wrong is when the manager doesn't trust the people they manage.

The WC new methodology makes direct comparisons with other provinces pretty much useless when looking at the total numbers.

On the surface it seems that Gauteng is catching up to the Western Cape but when you look at the hospitalisations it paints a very different picture.

They're as comparable now as they were two months ago.

 

[MiW]

The WC new methodology makes direct comparisons with other provinces pretty much useless when looking at the total numbers.

On the surface it seems that Gauteng is catching up to the Western Cape but when you look at the hospitalisations it paints a very different picture.

Yes, known fact. And in a week or so, GP will do the same.

 

[Temujin]

22,000 Edcon employees get retrenchment notices

SA's biggest non-food retailer Edcon has served 22,000 of its employees with notices of retrenchments as it blames load-shedding and the initial 45-day hard lockdown for its collapse.

www.sowetanlive.co.za

 

[RedViking]

22,000 Edcon employees get retrenchment notices

SA's biggest non-food retailer Edcon has served 22,000 of its employees with notices of retrenchments as it blames load-shedding and the initial 45-day hard lockdown for its collapse.

www.sowetanlive.co.za

Expected. However it was not load-shedding or covids fault, directly anyways. Bad management.
I am surprised they have finances for retrenchments.

 

[MiW]