South African Covid-19 News and Discussions 2

Gordon_R

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I posted this in the International thread, but it seems many here are blissfully unaware of the facts:
Several outbreak investigation reports have shown that COVID-19 transmission can be particularly effective in crowded, confined indoor spaces such as workplaces including factories, churches, restaurants, ski resorts, shopping centres, worker dormitories, cruise ships and vehicles, or events occurring indoor such as, parties, and dance classes, [171]. They indicated that transmission can be linked with specific activities, such as singing in a choir [172] or religious services that may be characterised by increased production of respiratory droplets through loud speech and singing.

In a study of 318 outbreaks in China, transmission in all cases except one occurred in indoor spaces [173]. The only case of outdoor transmission identified in this study involved two persons. However, outdoor events have also been implicated in the spread of COVID-19, typically those associated with crowding such as carnival celebrations [174] and football matches [175] suggesting a risk of transmission linked to crowding even at outdoor events. However, exposure in crowded indoor spaces is also very common during such events.
A systematic review and meta-analysis of 172 observational studies both in healthcare settings and the community, that looked into the effect of distance from the source patient and the use of respiratory and eye protection in the risk of transmission of SARS-CoV, MERS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2, concluded that physical distancing of at least one metre, use of face masks and eye protection were associated with a much lower risk of transmission [177]. Distances of two metres provided an even larger protective effect and the use of respirators was found to be more protective than medical masks in this review.
 

Supervan II

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COVID-19 test kits found dumped
A jogger reportedly came across the used COVID-19 test kits while out for their morning run.

The COVID-19 test kits had all the information about the tested patients, the hospitals they came from and appeared to be on their way to Port Elizabeth to be tested.

According to the jogger who was careful not to touch any of the kits, the tests were marked as urgent.

The jogger said that he saw hundreds of the test kits strewn down the side of the highway in black bags
Another successful tenderpreneur = Profit!!!!

Same happened some years ago when our refuse removal was outsourced one December. Refuse that was collected from in front of my house was discovered weeks later just dumped in an open veld. Monkepality's response? No Sir. That cannot be true!
 

RedViking

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I posted this in the International thread, but it seems many here are blissfully unaware of the facts:
I don't see any new facts no-one already knows?
 

Chris_the_Brit

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Looking at that pic none of them look severe enough to be there? Why aren't they self isolating?
Depending on your living arrangements, some can't self-isolate (e.g. those living in shacks). This is actually a better arrangement for such individuals.
 

pouroverguy

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The contrast between what you see here, and what you'll see at the Maternity and Neonatology Building at Groote Schuur, is just night and day. Or even just compared to the services at Mowbray Maternity Hospital in Cape Town. People can get good healthcare in the Public Sector, but unfortunately that too often seems to be reserved for only the biggest cities in the wealthiest of the provinces.
 

Paulsie

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maybe, and maybe we all need to start wearing plague masks to prevent the virus from spreading.
and maybe we all need to wear kitchen gloves everywhere to prevent us from picking up the virus from surfaces.

why not go full madness, and force everybody to wear motorbike crash helmets indoors so you cant touch your nose/mouth.

I see no end to this insanity really,
Problem solved!
 

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Paulsie

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The Gift of the Givers guys have always done an incredible job. They should be given all governt funding allocated to fighting c19 and be made in charge of the whole lot.
 

Lupus

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The contrast between what you see here, and what you'll see at the Maternity and Neonatology Building at Groote Schuur, is just night and day. Or even just compared to the services at Mowbray Maternity Hospital in Cape Town. People can get good healthcare in the Public Sector, but unfortunately that too often seems to be reserved for only the biggest cities in the wealthiest of the provinces.
Uhm nope Johannesburg hospitals aren't much better
 

pouroverguy

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Uhm nope Johannesburg hospitals aren't much better
Definitely better than what you'll see in the EC. Personally have had excellent specialist treatment and care at Helen Joseph in JHB, but I do think the best Public health services are in the WC.
 
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