South African Covid-19 News and Discussions 2

[pouroverguy]

In terms of preventing Covid-19 infection, yes.

I'm suggesting that nicotine can be beneficial. Smoking and nicotine get interchanged all the time and one assumes the other.

I do not advocate to start smoking, but there is no short term benefit in stopping either, especially during a pandemic.

Yes the body starts to heal straight away, but there is also something called quitters cold, when the body is far more susceptible to infection shortly after quitting.

Do you have evidence that immediately after quitting, you become more susceptible to infection? From what I've read "smokers flu" is not due to an actual infection.

 

[GRES]

I'm suggesting that nicotine can be beneficial. Smoking and nicotine get interchanged all the time and one assumes the other.

I do not advocate to start smoking, but there is no short term benefit in stopping either, especially during a pandemic.

Yes the body starts to heal straight away, but there is also something called quitters cold, when the body is far more susceptible to infection shortly after quitting.

There was very strong suggestion from scientists - for the non smokers - take Nicorette sticker and use it!!!
Working - nicotine block receptors where virus landing to human body

 

[Enzo Matrix]

There was very strong suggestion from scientists - for the non smokers - take Nicorette sticker and use it!!!
Working - nicotine block receptors where virus landing to human body

 

[MiW]

It's been suggested that if smokers do see their disease progress while in hospital, it is due to withdrawal from nicotine, exacerbating lung damage.

MORE evidence smoking may cut the risk of coronavirus: Review of 28 studies shows number of smokers among hospitalised patients is 'lower than expected' as expert admits the mounting findings are 'weird

More proof smokers may be at less risk of catching coronavirus

University of College London reviewed 28 studies and found smokers were less common than expected among COVID-19 patients, suggesting they are less likely to get sick with the infection.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[SpiderMonkey]

I'm sure the Prof would know the difference.

How would they know at this point? You have to wait to see if the people develop symptoms.

 

[GRES]

Very simple math -
China - 52% smokers
If smoking is bad with COVID - number of smoking patients in the hospitals > 52%
If neutral - 52%
In fact - 3.8%
Conclusion: Smoking give you >20 times advantage not to get into the hospital
Where is Zuma and all this tobacco saga in RSA?

 

[SpiderMonkey]

Very simple math -
China - 52% smokers
If smoking is bad with COVID - number of smoking patients in the hospitals > 52%
If neutral - 52%
In fact - 3.8%
Conclusion: Smoking give you >20 times advantage not to get into the hospital
Where is Zuma and all this tobacco saga in RSA?

Maybe smoking already killed off the people who are susceptible to Covid.

 

[Sinbad]

+12348 today. Quarter million mark reached, tomorrow we overtake Iran for 10th place.

 

[Paulsie]

Do you have evidence that immediately after quitting, you become more susceptible to infection? From what I've read "smokers flu" is not due to an actual infection.

If you are asking for published, blind studies etc, then no. All I have is incidental experience of my own and others, that every time I or the others quit smoking, they got sick. The idea is that smoking, vaping etc makes the body inhospitable to invaders.

You might not believe it, but smokers tend to in general be quite healthy throughout their lives, until it gets them in the end.

Once again, I'm not defending or promoting smoking, I'm simply criticizing the decision to withdraw cigarettes willy nilly, the result of which can actually cause far more harm

 

[Temujin]

50 people funeral regulation soon to be changed

 

[GRES]

You might not believe it, but smokers tend to in general be quite healthy throughout their lives, until it gets them in the end.

Old words - smoked meat stay longer . . .
Truth in this case

 

[dualmeister]

+12348 today. Quarter million mark reached, tomorrow we overtake Iran for 10th place.

Yip. Then the UK.

 

[BBSA]

You might not believe it, but smokers tend to in general be quite healthy throughout their lives, until it gets them in the end.

I smoked for years and I did not feel healthy at all. I felt an improvement within a month after stopping.

 

[Lupus]

+12348 today. Quarter million mark reached, tomorrow we overtake Iran for 10th place.

Silly metric to look at "total" cases really

 

[Mortymoose]

Yip. Then the UK.

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Gonna be a walk in the park for us, when it comes to disasters and corruption nobody can touch us.......

 

[R13...]

Silly metric to look at "total" cases really

SA is 5th in active cases. 15th in serious. 33rd cases per capita. All of those numbers obviously depend on total tests, how you sample, etc.

 

[Lupus]

SA is 5th in active cases. 15th in serious. 33rd cases per capita. All of those numbers obviously depend on total tests, how you sample, etc.

Yeah but testing is different, some places only test those with symptoms, some only those are risk and and. If there was an infinite amount of tests and all was equal sure

 

[MiW]

 

[pouroverguy]

COVID-19: Professor Karim says antibody tests approved

 

[MiW]

Queen Noloyiso to be honoured with special provincial funeral, flags to fly at half mast

President Cyril Ramaphosa announced that Her Majesty, Queen Noloyiso Sandile, is to be honoured with a special provincial funeral.

www.iol.co.za

We have queen ... and she died from Covid ...