South African Covid-19 News and Discussions 2

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And South Africa breaks into the top 10 of confirmed Covid cases pushing Iran into 11th place.

At the rate we are going we could move up all the way to 5th place.

 

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Covid-19 | We Remember

Paying tribute to those we've lost.

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[sand_man]

And South Africa breaks into the top 10 of confirmed Covid cases pushing Iran into 11th place.

At the rate we are going we could move up all the way to 5th place.

We were also 4th on the list of new recoveries though. I suppose that's the upside when you reporting so many active cases.

Our death rate remains stubbornly low. Wonder what's up with that? Definitely not our 1st world health care system. I sincerely hope this particular stat is accurate.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Yippee..our esteemed president has been given permission to address the nation tonight. Wonder what he's going to waffle at us about tonight....

'Curfew, booze-sale curbs': What to expect from Ramaphosa's address

A reintroduction of the night-time curfew, tightening regulations on the sale of alcohol, limiting movement between provinces and enforcing a limited load in minibus taxis and other modes of public transport are on the cards as President Cyril Ramaphosa addresses the nation tonight.

www.timeslive.co.za

 

[R13...]

Yippee..our esteemed president has been given permission to address the nation tonight. Wonder what he's going to waffle at us about tonight....

'Curfew, booze-sale curbs': What to expect from Ramaphosa's address

A reintroduction of the night-time curfew, tightening regulations on the sale of alcohol, limiting movement between provinces and enforcing a limited load in minibus taxis and other modes of public transport are on the cards as President Cyril Ramaphosa addresses the nation tonight.

www.timeslive.co.za

Could be bad news given the continuing rise in numbers.

 

[RedViking]

Yippee..our esteemed president has been given permission to address the nation tonight. Wonder what he's going to waffle at us about tonight....

'Curfew, booze-sale curbs': What to expect from Ramaphosa's address

A reintroduction of the night-time curfew, tightening regulations on the sale of alcohol, limiting movement between provinces and enforcing a limited load in minibus taxis and other modes of public transport are on the cards as President Cyril Ramaphosa addresses the nation tonight.

www.timeslive.co.za

All people care about is news on booze and smokes

 

[maumau]

Those of you saying deaths are under reported could be right but where are the dead.

We're in contact with staff living in Soweto, Cosmo City and an informal settlement north of Randburg.

None of them know of sick people let alone dead ones.

 

[TheChamp]

Those of you saying deaths are under reported could be right but where are the dead.

We're in contact with staff living in Soweto, Cosmo City and an informal settlement north of Randburg.

None of them know of sick people let alone dead ones.

And you should know that in such communities a death is everyone's business, there's really no way of hiding it.

 

[MiW]

COVID-19 WRAP | Ramaphosa cracks whip, bans alcohol immediately & over 4,000 Covid-19 deaths in SA, with 276,200 cases

Health experts say it is difficult to tell how extensive the bed shortage will be because the government is not releasing proper data on beds and other available resources.

www.timeslive.co.za

 

[R13...]

COVID-19 WRAP | Ramaphosa cracks whip, bans alcohol immediately & over 4,000 Covid-19 deaths in SA, with 276,200 cases

Health experts say it is difficult to tell how extensive the bed shortage will be because the government is not releasing proper data on beds and other available resources.

www.timeslive.co.za

This pandemic is like "water, water everywhere and not a drop to drink" for the private care industry. Beds full but still not turning a profit because lucrative surgery and ER cases have plummeted.

 

[dualmeister]

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[MiW]

This pandemic is like "water, water everywhere and not a drop to drink" for the private care industry. Beds full but still not turning a profit because lucrative surgery and ER cases have plummeted.

Private will take patients from public for 16k? a bed, and they won't kick them out when a medical aid patient goes.

 

[RedViking]

Those of you saying deaths are under reported could be right but where are the dead.

We're in contact with staff living in Soweto, Cosmo City and an informal settlement north of Randburg.

None of them know of sick people let alone dead ones.

Very few die.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Could be bad news given the continuing rise in numbers.

Probably will be... Do you think it's going to change anything on the ground though?

 

[R13...]

Probably will be... Do you think it's going to change anything on the ground though?

Not on the ground but it'll screw business and the economy and the working man by extension. You they'd learn by now that it is attitudes and not lockdowns that will make the difference. They need to stop paying millions to people who purport to be doing education campaigns when all they do is sit and write invoices that's if they ever even get to people's houses.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Not on the ground but it'll screw business and the economy and the working man by extension. You they'd learn by now that it is attitudes and not lockdowns that will make the difference. They need to stop paying millions to people who purport to be doing education campaigns when all they do is sit and write invoices that's if they ever even get to people's houses.

100% agree with you....

If these supposed stricter lockdown regs limit economic activity very much you can expect them to fail monumentally... Businesses won't willingly scale back now.

 

[B-1]

Those of you saying deaths are under reported could be right but where are the dead.

We're in contact with staff living in Soweto, Cosmo City and an informal settlement north of Randburg.

None of them know of sick people let alone dead ones.

Deaths usually lag by a good few weeks so there will still be an upswing. Hopefully we stay at the low end % wise like we are now. The big question is how hard we will be implementing triage and what the effects will be.

 

[Lupus]

Niece had test swab taken Thursday morning, it's now Sunday and no word, so you really can't take the confirmed cases per day seriously.

 

[Paulsie]

Urgent appeal for help: Gauteng doctors make urgent public appeal for lifesaving oxygen concentrators

Doctors have made an urgent appeal for people to lend them their oxygen concentrators or to donate to an account for the rental of these machines as they try to address the oxygen needs of Covid-19 patients at the Nasrec Field Hospital while the facility is being expanded.

www.dailymaverick.co.za

We need to get oxygen going at beds in Nasrec,” she said. “Suppliers tell us that private people have bought them up to keep them at home in case they need them. If you bought one or know of someone with one and it is sitting in your home, can you loan it to us for a week while more stock comes into the country? We will give it back as soon as you need it,” she added.

A great example of the difference between how private sector prepares VS the gov hospitals.

 

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We were also 4th on the list of new recoveries though. I suppose that's the upside when you reporting so many active cases.

Our death rate remains stubbornly low. Wonder what's up with that? Definitely not our 1st world health care system. I sincerely hope this particular stat is accurate.

Call me conspiracy theorist but I think SA wants to hit the top 5 in the world so they can beg for money from the international community.

Our current deaths vs infected rate is 1.5%. That puts our death vs infected rate at 136th in the world.
To put that in perspective France is 17.5%, Belgium is 15.6 UK is 15.5%, Italy if 14.5%

South Africa is treating this epidemic like the HIV/Aids epidemic. Trying to identify as many people as possible. Italy on the other hand vastly underreported their infections and focused on treating those on deaths door in hospital with respirators. I think Europe was ten times more infected than us. Now they have reached herd immunity.

Other countries with a similar death rate than us is Russia but their official policy is if you have Covid and another condition then your death is not Covid related.
Also New Zealand. However their island is virus free so their stats just improve by the day.


If 25% of people now tested in SA are positive to Covid-19 because of targeted testing. If you ask me using targeted testing of people who are asymptomatic is stupid. A worthless stat as all people who interact with other people will get it eventually. Let those who interact with many people get it so as a nation we will get herd immunity. That way we save the old who can hide away.
The goal is for any nation to get herd immunity. Not avoid it. Look at NY. European countries. Once you get her immunity then you are in the clear.

Tracking recovery is stupid as most people like kids are asymptomatic. Heck where are all the pictures of baby coffins. Aren't babies the most vulnerable?