South African Covid-19 News and Discussions 2

[IceyQ]

I saw in the other thread of smokes and alcohol ban, that they might bring back the curfew, restrict movement between provinces, and limit the sale of alcohol.

I obeyed the law before the lockdown, not because of government, but in spite of it. If I break the law, it will be for the same reason. I was raised to leave a person and place in a better state than I found it, but also to stand against things that are unjust and do not follow through with its logical conclusion.

I have not seen my parents since January, as I am in Cape Town and they are in Limpopo. I don't want to risk getting my sister or dad sick, both are "high risk". I chose to not do this, even though my dad can sort out a "work permit" for me. Right now, I chose to be cautious. So I wear my mask, I stay away from public areas as far as possible and I follow shop owner regulations when there.

Point is, the lockdowns and restrictions will only work, and did work, because, we chose to play along. If the government starts stepping over everyone for longer, and the more businesses that close down, people will stop playing along. In my town here in the Cape, I haven't seen people without masks, we all still line up apart to enter shops, everyone seems to keep distances ect....

When will enough be enough? How will 60k military and the not so well backed police, control 60mil people once we have reached the gatvol line?

 

[Paulsie]

Ramaphosa to 'reintroduce curfew, limit inter-provincial travel' - report

The return of a nighttime curfew could be one of the stricter measures reintroduced in South Africa, as Cyril Ramaphosa prepares to address the nation.

www.thesouthafrican.com

That will be interesting...

 

[Grant]

Well ... I now know of two direct acquaintances who each lost a family member recently, neither believes it was covid due to those people heading to hospital with terminal, non-covid, issues.

Both cases were marked as covid deaths, which is another issue, but on the topic of coffins ... both families were:
- not allowed to see the body
- not allowed to arrange a burial for the body
- told the body will be cremated

if this is the official approach there won't be coffins, only urns or some cheap "fertilizer" sold by the nursery next door to the hospital

Sounds odd.
The official protocol:

https://coronavirus.westerncape.gov.za/files/atoms/files/Provincial%20guide%20for%20Funerals%20-%2001%2006%202020_ABF.pdf

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Sounds odd.
The official protocol:

https://coronavirus.westerncape.gov.za/files/atoms/files/Provincial%20guide%20for%20Funerals%20-%2001%2006%202020_ABF.pdf

yeah it sounded odd to me too, but I have no reason to think they were lying when they said this is what they were told

thanks for the official protocol, grim, but useful to have an official document

 

[Grant]

yeah it sounded odd to me too, but I have no reason to think they were lying when they said this is what they were told

thanks for the official protocol, grim, but useful to have an official document

If you think that is grim you should read the "palliative care" document. It's enough to make one weep.

 

[Polymathic]

And South Africa breaks into the top 10 of confirmed Covid cases pushing Iran into 11th place.

At the rate we are going we could move up all the way to 5th place.

Could vr

Deaths in Europe were due to much higher numbers of elderly people.

Europe is nowhere close to herd immunity, seroprevalence studies came back showing only 5-15% of people have had the virus.

Testing asymptomatic/pre-symptomatic people is extremely important to slow/stop the spread of the virus. SA never did it properly (shortage of tests, results taking too long to come back, not doing proper tracing) and have now just given up on this method of prevention entirely.

It's been known from the very beginning that the older you are, the more chance of dying you have. Kids have always been the least at risk.

I do agree that SA has absolutely ZERO chance of stopping or even slowing the virus down at this stage. Unfortunately the government has been so slack at preparing hospitals that many people will die unnecessarily.

The IFR (infection fatality rate) for South Africa could be as low as 0.3% based on the demographics alone

 

[ForceFate]

Just saw a man and what I presume is his staff member wearing confederate flag cloth masks. I chuckled.

 

[Lupus]

Would she have died now if she didnt get Covid?

Pretty much yeah, she wasn't doing to well.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Bringing Greater Precision to the COVID-19 Response

Surgo Ventures is leveraging behavioral science, data science, and artificial intelligence to uncover new insights that policymakers, government officials, and the general public can incorporate into their response, from the national right down to the local level.

precisionforcovid.org

New vulnerability index for all African countries taking into account a number of factors.

The foundation’s research offers a silver lining of sorts. Its model estimates that Africa’s covid-19 infection fatality rate (IFR), ie, the share of people who would die if they were infected with the disease as opposed to officially diagnosed, falls somewhere between 0.1% and 0.15%. America’s IFR, in comparison, has been estimated at around five times as high. But caution is in order. Research by the Center for Global Development, another non-profit organisation, paints a less rosy view. They estimate that Africa’s covid-19 IFR to be much closer to that of rich countries.

 

[Paulsie]

Just saw a man and what I presume is his staff member wearing confederate flag cloth masks. I chuckled.

Do you think they will make him take his mask off???

 

[Geoff.D]

Bringing Greater Precision to the COVID-19 Response

Surgo Ventures is leveraging behavioral science, data science, and artificial intelligence to uncover new insights that policymakers, government officials, and the general public can incorporate into their response, from the national right down to the local level.

precisionforcovid.org

New vulnerability index for all African countries taking into account a number of factors.



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Very interesting website. IF ONLY it would work properly when accessed with Chrome or Edge!

 

[RedViking]

Bringing Greater Precision to the COVID-19 Response

Surgo Ventures is leveraging behavioral science, data science, and artificial intelligence to uncover new insights that policymakers, government officials, and the general public can incorporate into their response, from the national right down to the local level.

precisionforcovid.org

New vulnerability index for all African countries taking into account a number of factors.



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Interesting. Although KZN is currently not on top of the list.

 

[ForceFate]

Do you think they will make him take his mask off???

Made by whom? Because the confederate states were pro-slavery?

 

[gottagoon]

More news:

Covid-19 death storm is here: Doctors have to choose, funeral parlours at full capacity, and experts say this could have been prevented | Citypress

The long-feared Covid-19 coronavirus storm has arrived. Funeral parlours are battling to cope with demand as Covid-19-related deaths around the country rise daily, and government is increasing capacity in cemeteries to cater for the deluge.

www.news24.com

 

[gottagoon]

Bah. Shitstorm thanks to the ANC.
Over it.

 

[Enzo Matrix]

What time is that p0es stealing our liberties again?

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

What time is that p0es stealing our liberties again?

No announcement yet. I think it is to give the appearance that they are working on a Sunday (hilarious, ANC MPs are far too lazy for that) so can only announce the time at the last minute.

 

[CataclysmZA]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1282318975880364037

Top left shows NDZ wearing a mask inside her home?

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

If you think that is grim you should read the "palliative care" document. It's enough to make one weep.

I'll file that with the other reasons I never became a physician even though I love the idea of having physician money

you know reasons like:
- actually didn't have the inclination
- might not even have the smarts
- definitely didn't have the opportunity
- found out gynecologists can't have exclusively hot chicks as clients

 

[gottagoon]

Hoping the lights come back on. Due to come on in 45mins.

Not that I plan on watching Cyril's speech prepared by NDZ. I just wanna go for a pee with confidence. And not miss the bowl