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Lupus

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I'm back at work today from recovering from Covid 19.

I had no fever, no sore throat, no cough.

I felt a little schit about 4 weeks ago, like I had he flu. Lasted about 4 to 5 days.

Tested positive on the 27th of June. My SO tested negative and had no symptoms whatsoever.

I can almost guarantee we have way more cases than recorded. I only went to get tested because a colleague came up positive. I also had to do some serious convincing to get them to test me.
And you lived together and your SO didn't get it? Interesting. glad you're okay.
 

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Makes you wonder what kind of contact it takes to pick up from a positive case. His case was relatively mild, maybe the virus shedding is proportional to severity.
If that would be the case, then asymptomatic people wouldn't spread it at all.
 

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If that would be the case, then asymptomatic people wouldn't spread it at all.

I'm starting to think what they call asymptomatic is just a very mild case where people will have a bit of a cold but not so bad that a couple aspirin and a pseudoephedrine tablet won't do the trick. Find it hard to believe you can get this thing and feel on top of the world.
 

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I'm starting to think what they call asymptomatic is just a very mild case where people will have a bit of a cold but not so bad that a couple aspirin and a pseudoephedrine tablet will do the trick. Find it hard to believe you can get this thing and feel on top of the world.
Why would you think that? Also no one said on top of the world, you might feel a little run down, or tired but shrug it off.
 

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If that would be the case, then asymptomatic people wouldn't spread it at all.

I don't have a reference, but there are several factors involved:
1. The virus lives in the lungs, but the symptoms are experienced inside the body, mainly blood vessels.
2. Coughing obviously spreads more virus particles, but normal breathing does so as well.
3. The actual transmission mechanisms have not been well studied, both for practical and ethical reasons.
4. Spread is always a statistical matter, multiplying the duration of exposure, and the proximity of exposure.
5. Many households only have one person infected, not everyone is exposed.
 

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It is heart breaking, in this last year and a half I've seen a lot of friends emigrate, even some that were die-hard South Africans who loved this country are now gone.
Those who don't have foreign passports will probably find their themselves back in the country once the dust settles from this pandemic
 

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I don't have a reference, but there are several factors involved:
1. The virus lives in the lungs, but the symptoms are experienced inside the body, mainly blood vessels.
2. Coughing obviously spreads more virus particles, but normal breathing does so as well.
3. The actual transmission mechanisms have not been well studied, both for practical and ethical reasons.
4. Spread is always a statistical matter, multiplying the duration of exposure, and the proximity of exposure.
5. Many households only have one person infected, not everyone is exposed.
But it's his SO, I'm sure they were perhaps intimate?
 

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I'm starting to think what they call asymptomatic is just a very mild case
What did you think asymptomatic meant before now?

It literally means that you have the disease without symptoms, or that the symptoms are so mild you are not aware of them.

If you're asymptomatic, you don't show any signs of being sick. In some cases, you can have a disease but still be asymptomatic.

When doctors talk about someone being asymptomatic, they are usually referring to a patient who has been exposed to an illness or is sick but doesn't have any symptoms. This is important in medicine because these asymptomatic people can often spread the illness, even though they don't appear to be sick. The a- prefix here means "not," from the Latin ab, "away from."
 

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If that would be the case, then asymptomatic people wouldn't spread it at all.
They probably do, just less. Here's an article where they infer on flu
With influenza, persons with asymptomatic disease generally have lower quantitative viral loads in secretions from the upper respiratory tract than from the lower respiratory tract and a shorter duration of viral shedding than persons with symptoms,4 which decreases the risk of transmission from paucisymptomatic persons (i.e., those with few symptoms).
 

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Those who don't have foreign passports will probably find their themselves back in the country once the dust settles from this pandemic
My wife's mom is British, we've just got to get my wifes passport sorted out, but it was always we will do it, now I've got to sort it out, then I can go over on spousal.
 

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Why would you think that? Also no one said on top of the world, you might feel a little run down, or tired but shrug it off.
What did you think asymptomatic meant before now?

It literally means that you have the disease without symptoms, or that the symptoms are so mild you are not aware of them.

I haven't heard of anyone testing positive without even noticing feeling any different. And according to (some) stats that should be happening to the majority of people.

I'm saying because of the wide scale of severity of this virus, they are most likely stretching the definition of asymptomatic to include "very" mild cases. Let's remember that what is considered a "normal" mild case is still the worst flu you've ever had.
 

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If that would be the case, then asymptomatic people wouldn't spread it at all.
Not possible to draw that conclusion based on the info we have available so far. very few studies have been published about how the virus is passed on.
 

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Not possible to draw that conclusion based on the info we have available so far. very few studies have been published about how the virus is passed on.
You'd think with all the clevers out there, they'd look at how the other coronaviruses are spread and work it out. Oh wait, never before has a corona virus had this affect, except for MERS and SARS 1.
 

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I haven't heard of anyone testing positive without even noticing feeling any different. And according to (some) stats that should be happening to the majority of people.

I'm saying because of the wide scale of severity of this virus, they are most likely stretching the definition of asymptomatic to include "very" mild cases. Let's remember that what is considered a "normal" mild case is still the worst flu you've ever had.
Because most people who test positive, had a reason to go get tested.
 

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Because most people who test positive, had a reason to go get tested.

And that reason might have been that they were in close contact with someone who was positive. There should be plenty people out there who have tested positive and didn't feel a thing.
 

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And that reason might have been that they were in close contact with someone who was positive. There should be plenty people out there who have tested positive and didn't feel a thing.
There are, hence why they are finding out about asymptomatic people.
 
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