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LCBXX said:
It's all pretend anyway. Many currently walk around with the sniffles behind their masks already. There's no way those people are avoiding catching COVID-19; it's just a matter of time.
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Yes and the masks reduces the viral load released into a room, so instead infecting 3 people in the same room they just infect 1. This adds up over time reducing the spread of the virus
 
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Geoff.D said:
So with the cloth masks, it means that after a trip to the shops, or out in public, you get home and wash the mask straight away, helping to remove whatever might have been on the mask. And just to re-iterate for those still talking crap on the forum, wearing a mask is NOT about protecting YOU from getting it, but it is about YOU keeping lots of YOUR bugs to yourself as much as possible. So it does not matter then whether you have the "sniffles" or not, wearing a mask reduces the probability the YOU will infect someone else when you are in an infectious stage for Covid AND any other airborne virus such as the "flu" or a "cold".
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Allow me to present an analogy of sorts :

Think of the "dual bag" method.

You meet some woman in a dark bar at 3am - your judgment is a little questionable.
Be that as it may, you encourage her to put a paper bag over her head in order not to have her ugly face discourage you during a feisty bout of coitus.
However, sanity prevails and you somehow remember to put a paper bag over your own head, in case hers comes off.

Similar principle
 
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Grant said:
Allow me to present an analogy of sorts :

Think of the "dual bag" method.

You meet some woman in a dark bar at 3am - your judgment is a little questionable.
Be that as it may, you encourage her to put a paper bag over her head in order not to have her ugly face discourage you during a feisty bout of coitus.
However, sanity prevails and you somehow remember to put a paper bag over your own head, in case hers comes off.

Similar principle
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I have seen this porno before...
 
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We were commenting on the mask issue at work last week....

It is clearly evident to us that there are almost no customers showing signs of the flu of colds this winter.

Usually every fourth person would be spluttering away in the store at this time of the year........

There is a definite decrease in the usual winter ailments and we put this down to the masks and sanitizing......

In fact we have gone through so much sanitizer that I am sure the entire place would go up in a ball of flames if someone lit a match....
 
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Mortymoose said:
We were commenting on the mask issue at work last week....

It is clearly evident to us that there are almost no customers showing signs of the flu of colds this winter.

Usually every fourth person would be spluttering away in the store at this time of the year........

There is a definite decrease in the usual winter ailments and we put this down to the masks and sanitizing......

In fact we have gone through so much sanitizer that I am sure the entire place would go up in a ball of flames if someone lit a match....
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Could also being less social, less people at work with sick people coughing and sneezing everywhere.
 
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noxibox said:
Some percentage of vapour is going to be stopped. It's not going to be the majority.
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Actually yes, the majority. At least my mask does (simple double layered knitted cloth, I just chopped the top of a beanie off).
noxibox said:
That would indicate a significant impairment of airflow. That'll certainly cause problems for breathing.
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Not true at all. I have zero problems breathing.
noxibox said:
Blocking air is one of the things they find drastically reduces tolerability. Airflow is a poor test, because it is not linearly correlated with droplet blocking. Blocking airflow goes up much faster.
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Reducing flow prevents it from traveling to another person. That's the whole point.
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And masks increase the likelihood of touching the face for the majority of people. Easily observed in any inddor public area. And tallies with what research finds regarding mask comfort issues.
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Even if that is true for some (I find the opposite happens, the mask reminds me not to touch), not wearing masks is much more likely to cause infections than touching ones own face.

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Studies have also shown that moving air mitigates this. But just having virus particles floating around doesn't mean they can cause an infection. Influenza is a good example of being similarly infectious, but still mostly through droplets except in cases where you concentrate the smaller droplets in an area.

The virus doesn't survive an extraordinarily long time. It's survival time is quite ordinary.
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Yes, virus particles floating in air will only cause infections IF they survive outside the human body for long enough to travel to the next person.

Coronavirus can survive outside the human much longer than influenza. Studies with equal loads of MERS, SARS-1 and H1N1 showed that H1N1 was not viable after 1 hour whereas the others were still viable after 48 hours.

Point is it most definitely survives longer than the 20 minute air time it gets when exhaled.
 
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Mortymoose said:
We were commenting on the mask issue at work last week....

It is clearly evident to us that there are almost no customers showing signs of the flu of colds this winter.

Usually every fourth person would be spluttering away in the store at this time of the year........

There is a definite decrease in the usual winter ailments and we put this down to the masks and sanitizing......

In fact we have gone through so much sanitizer that I am sure the entire place would go up in a ball of flames if someone lit a match....
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Excellent observation. So, the wearing of masks has been a blessing in disguise on many fronts.

BTW, Have you seen the furore breaking out around the quality of the sanitizers being used at shops etc?

Is the sanitizer you are using approved by the SABS and does it contain >70% Alcohol, No Methanol, and no strange chemicals?
 
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Geoff.D said:
Is the sanitizer you are using approved by the SABS and does it contain >70% Alcohol, No Methanol, and no strange chemicals?
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My partner is very good mates with a chap down in the Cape who has his own chemical company. The company has been around for more that thirty years and exports their products. The products come with full Sabs approved data sheets and are the real deal. Not sure what other stores are using, but our stuff is the good, we had to hand over all data to the mine who then went and ordered bulk from us....the lad cal town council also buys through us....

Personally I like the way ones hands glow in the dark and you are the hit of the braai when you light sambuca....:unsure:;)
 
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Geoff.D said:
Is the sanitizer you are using approved by the SABS and does it contain >70% Alcohol, No Methanol, and no strange chemicals?
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My partner is very good mates with a chap down in the Cape who has his own chemical company. The company has been around for more that thirty years and exports their products. The products come with full Sabs approved data sheets and are the real deal. Not sure what other stores are using, but our stuff is the good, we had to hand over all data to the mine who then went and ordered bulk from us....the lad cal town council also buys through us....

Personally I like the way ones hands glow in the dark and you are the hit of the braai when you light sambuca....:unsure:;)
 
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Lupus said:
Could also being less social, less people at work with sick people coughing and sneezing everywhere.
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You have a point there, in our discussion it was mentioned that the 700 kids that attend the two local schools were always a massive breeding ground for spreading germs, lump the students who attend boarding schools in SA and you are well on your way...
 
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Mortymoose said:
You have a point there, in our discussion it was mentioned that the 700 kids that attend the two local schools were always a massive breeding ground for spreading germs, lump the students who attend boarding schools in SA and you are well on your way...
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Granted the wearing of masks is probably helping, not sure on the sanitiser though.
 
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