South African Covid-19 News and Discussions 2

[BBSA]

WATCH | BLF allocates graves to SA leaders, triggering Tshwane metro condemnation

The Black First Land First movement (BLF) has come under fire after it allocated unused graves dug at the Honingnestkrans cemetery, north of Tshwane, to government leaders.

www.timeslive.co.za

Posted here seeing as there is confusion about whom these graves are for, covid or not?

EDIT -

“The city digs the graves in the normal course of its work to ensure there are graves ready for interments,” Nawa said.

He denied allegations that the Honingnestkrans cemetery has been earmarked as a Covid-19 burial site for 24,000 people.

“The truth of the matter is that the city’s cemeteries across all seven regions have a capacity to accommodate 24,000 burials related to Covid-19.”


BLF has zero chill and this stunt seems extreme, but damn, the chungus are big on these okes, and maybe I am becoming numb to the headlines, but I did find this amusing. *dodges the 'howdareyou' successfully

These Idiots just want to stay relevant, don't give them the attention they so desperately crave.

 

[KantSnyer]

WATCH | BLF allocates graves to SA leaders, triggering Tshwane metro condemnation

The Black First Land First movement (BLF) has come under fire after it allocated unused graves dug at the Honingnestkrans cemetery, north of Tshwane, to government leaders.

www.timeslive.co.za

Posted here seeing as there is confusion about whom these graves are for, covid or not?

EDIT -

“The city digs the graves in the normal course of its work to ensure there are graves ready for interments,” Nawa said.

He denied allegations that the Honingnestkrans cemetery has been earmarked as a Covid-19 burial site for 24,000 people.

“The truth of the matter is that the city’s cemeteries across all seven regions have a capacity to accommodate 24,000 burials related to Covid-19.”


BLF has zero chill and this stunt seems extreme, but damn, the chungus are big on these okes, and maybe I am becoming numb to the headlines, but I did find this amusing. *dodges the 'howdareyou' successfully

These clowns are still around?

 

[MidnightZA]

Taxis at 100% capacity with travel with no more than 200km traveled, this is mind blowing.

You are only safe for the first 199kms. Then you have to jump out of the taxi and jump back in to travel another short distance of 199kms to stay safe from the virus.

ANC and Taxi Logic

 

[Paulsie]

Yeah. I'm not that much of an idiot. I know what it means.

What the **** does it have to do with this coronchan issue?
If anything it made sense to call that hard lockdown when we prepared and fattened as the calm period, although that was more a calm before the storm. There is no eye in this storm. It's calm, then storm, then calm again after.

Let me rephrase my original question as everyone seems to be dealing with the EYE, rather than the question.

Why have recoveries gone from 48% to 52%, while we are recording 13k daily?

 

[Sinbad]

Let me rephrase my original question as everyone seems to be dealing with the EYE, rather than the question.

Why have recoveries gone from 48% to 52%, while we are recording 13k daily?

Because there's no scientific method behind recovery numbers.

 

[pinball wizard]

Why have recoveries gone from 48% to 52%, while we are recording 13k daily?

Because the daily total has been running since March. Surely the majority of those cases up to say, 3 weeks ago, have reached some sort of conclusion - dead or recovered?

And we know that out of the 300k confirmed cases, only 5k are dead, so.... (excuse my rounding of the numbers. I refuse to look at the hype numbers published.)

 

[realkingkam]

Quarantine period reduced from 14 to 10 days ... could effect the recovery numbers drastically . 4 days of open cases are closed off as recovered

 

[Lupus]

Because the daily total has been running since March. Surely the majority of those cases up to say, 3 weeks ago, have reached some sort of conclusion - dead or recovered?

And we know that out of the 300k confirmed cases, only 5k are dead, so.... (excuse my rounding of the numbers. I refuse to look at the hype numbers published.)

Well the fact that it can take 2 weeks to get the results. So you've either died or recovered by the time you're aware of what you had.

 

[pinball wizard]

Well the fact that it can take 2 weeks to get the results. So you've either died or recovered by the time you're aware of what you had.

So that's why they kept telling us to wait two weeks.

 

[Lupus]

So that's why they kept telling us to wait two weeks.

Well it's been 12 days, they told us 4 days. No idea if we will ever get them, so we will just have to assume it was negative. Going to take my son back to OT today as it's been two weeks.
But yeah that's probably why they keep saying wait 2 weeks. The numbers will rise.

 

[Geoff.D]

Let me rephrase my original question as everyone seems to be dealing with the EYE, rather than the question.

Why have recoveries gone from 48% to 52%, while we are recording 13k daily?

Because it is derived by the only maths that the govt sometimes appear to understand. Simple subtraction.
There is no "test" done to confirm anyone has "recovered". The assumption is that after 14 days those that have not "died" or are still under treatment "must have recovered". Now that the 14-day assumption has been changed to 10 days based on the WHO recommendation (WHO says 8 days, SA decided on 10 days), who the H knows what the figure means.

 

[pinball wizard]

There is no "test" done to confirm anyone has "recovered". The assumption is that after 14 days those that have not "died" or are still under treatment "must have recovered".

Exactly why the hype, headline number of new cases and total confirmed cases from the beginning of time is a meaningless number.

 

[Lupus]

Exactly why the hype, headline number of new cases and total confirmed cases from the beginning of time is a meaningless number.

Give it 14 days or thereabouts.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Exactly why the hype, headline number of new cases and total confirmed cases from the beginning of time is a meaningless number.

No, you can derive some info from new cases. It's not meaningless. You can obtain the positivity rate (higher is obviously worse) and assuming number of tests carried out are similar, you can see whether the government has it under control or not. Would you prefer a country to have 5000 cases a day or 20000 assuming number of tests carried out are the same?

 

[Geoff.D]

An aside, not really the place to post but because it shows up how poor things are out there:

A pipe underground at my daughter's place burst. Normally, I would have assisted her to get it fixed but because of the Corona, she tried to fix it herself. But on Saturday, she phoned me to come and help. So I donned my plumbing hat and went to play plumber.

The house was part of a development in Centurion a few years ago. The "leak" is directly attributable to incredibly poor workmanship carried out went the place was built. The "quote" she got from a plumber in the area to do the repairs (no digging or filling in included) was R 10 000. The material to repair and install properly was R 500. The time taken by me was 4 hours. Please, someone, explain how R 500 in parts and 4 hours labour turns into a R 10 000 quote?

 

[Lupus]

An aside, not really the place to post but because it shows up how poor things are out there:

A pipe underground at my daughter's place burst. Normally, I would have assisted her to get it fixed but because of the Corona, she tried to fix it herself. But on Saturday, she phoned me to come and help. So I donned my plumbing hat and went to play plumber.

The house was part of a development in Centurion a few years ago. The "leak" is directly attributable to incredibly poor workmanship carried out went he place was built. The "quote she got from a plumber in the are to do the repairs ( no digging or filling in include was R 10 000. The material to repair and install properly was R 500. The time taken by me was 4 hours. Please, someone, explain how R 500 in parts and 4 hours labour turns into a R 10 000 quote?

Some plumbers are just in it for the money, ours would've been about R2500 for that than.

 

[pinball wizard]

No, you can derive some info from new cases. It's not meaningless. You can obtain the positivity rate (higher is obviously worse) and assuming number of tests carried out are similar, you can see whether the government has it under control or not. Would you prefer a country to have 5000 cases a day or 20000 assuming number of tests carried out are the same?

You can?

You can see the positivity rate of the testing population. That's it. And we are aggressively screening, so our testing population is radically skewed towards positive results. It's not relevant in the way you seem to think it is.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

You can?

You can see the positivity rate of the testing population. That's it. And we are aggressively screening, so our testing population is radically skewed towards positive results. It's not relevant in the way you seem to think it is.

Yes - as is the case with every other country. Hence, you can make comparisons.

Even if it is "radically skewed", it is still useful monitoring this number as it will eventually drop, indicating less community spread.

 

[pinball wizard]

Ok. I'm out. It's almost as depressing as the mask wankers arguing.

 

[ShaunSA]

Give it 14 days or thereabouts.

Is that when it hits the townships from the full taxis?