South African Covid-19 News and Discussions 2

[IceyQ]

Lockdown: Less restrictive measures existed to manage Covid-19, says LFN in court papers | News24

Less restrictive mechanisms with a focus on protecting human rights existed to deal with Covid-19, instead of the national state of disaster which government declared in March, the Liberty Fighters Network and Reyno de Beer have argued in court papers.

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• The Liberty Fighters Network and Reyno de Beer have applied for leave to cross-appeal the minister of cooperative governance and traditional affairs in the matter involving the declaration of lockdown regulations as unconstitutional.
• The two argue there existed less restrictive mechanisms, which also preserved human rights, to manage the Covid-19 pandemic.
• They said the declaration was based on advice that was unconfirmed and unreliable.

 

[LCBXX]

Depends on the area. I'd imagine it wouldn't take more a couple hundred additional deaths over to fill up mortuaries beyond capacity

Has this ever happened in this country? If yes, what was the cause?

 

[MiW]

Bio-hazard warning after truck carrying Covid-19 samples hijacked in Port Elizabeth | News24

A courier truck carrying Covid-19 specimens has been hijacked in Port Elizabeth in the Eastern Cape - and the samples are missing.

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[Grant]

I contribute more than 50% my income to taxes for Government.. . .

What more should I do?

. . . Is my managing to eek out some money for a medical aid precisely so that I can avoid personally more putting strain not enough, over and above paying taxes?

how do you manage to complain about having to "eak out some money" for medical aid contributions when at a 50% tax rate you are earning about R150 000 per month ?

 

[Temujin]

 

[Temujin]

And what are the flu deaths now, with lockdowns in effect?

I was looking for this the other day
Turns out, flu no longer exists, its all now rona

Influenza Archives - NICD

www.nicd.ac.za

 

[Grant]

Has this ever happened in this country? If yes, what was the cause?

it happened in durban in the early 90s
train accident outside durban
state mortuary in dbn was full, state hospitals had to take some bodies, then private undertakers and private hospitals were asked to make their facilities available

 

[LCBXX]

how do you manage to complain about having to "eak out some money" for medical aid contributions when at a 50% tax rate you are earning about R150 000 per month ?

I really want to answer you properly, so I need to ask: can you add? If yes, take your income-tax rate and to that add all the other taxes you also pay: VAT, Government levies, CO2 tax, etc.

EDIT: The highest income-tax rate is 45%, not 50%

 

[LCBXX]

it happened in durban in the early 90s
train accident outside durban
state mortuary in dbn was full, state hospitals had to take some bodies, then private undertakers and private hospitals were asked to make their facilities available

Did they have to ban alcohol and cigarette sales to curb the overflowing?

 

[IceyQ]

Woop Woop, it's the sound of the police!

my brain insta played that song to me. Thanks, brain, only that one line. Now YOU can have it stuck in your head too.

 

[dualmeister]

#****thenarcs

 

[Grant]

Did they have to ban alcohol and cigarette sales to curb the overflowing?

That's utterly irrelevant. There was no train ban to curb the overflowing.

Morturies have only a certain amount of space, no matter the cause of death.
Bodies from covid related deaths go directly to private undertakers who have limited space. Apart from the space limitation, it now takes double or more time to process each body - this creates a bottleneck, hence the requirement of additional storage space

 

[Grant]

I really want to answer you properly, so I need to ask: can you add? If yes, take your income-tax rate and to that add all the other taxes you also pay: VAT, Government levies, CO2 tax, etc.

EDIT: The highest income-tax rate is 45%, not 50%

It was you who claimed you contribute MORE than 50% of your income to govt tax.

 

[daveza]

They can gather in groups of 50 and say a prayer.

Or they could have groups of 50 having a funeral for a cat or a goldfish.

 

[Lupus]

They can gather in groups of 50 and say a prayer.

Or they could have groups of 50 having a funeral for a cat or a goldfish.

It's 50 you're fine, 51 is where we lay the line.

 

[MiW]

Gauteng govt launches new app to fight Covid-19 in the taxi industry | News24

Gauteng's Department of Transport has launched a new mobile app that will monitor and prevent the spread of Covid-19 in taxis and at taxi ranks.

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Gauteng's Department of Transport has launched a new mobile app that will monitor and prevent the spread of Covid-19 in taxis and at taxi ranks.

First, congratulations to the SA government for creating the smartest AI in the world!

Mamabolo added rank marshals and managers would be paid a monthly stipend of R3 500 and R5 000, respectively.
The application will help the government to monitor the number of passengers accessing taxis, the number of taxis disinfected, taxi drivers sanitising passengers' hands, wearing of masks by all and the cleaning of ranks.

But who is paying for all that? Covid funds? This is the most ridiculous idea.

Obviously the 'marshals' will be getting cash from both sides :-/

 

[daveza]

Gauteng govt launches new app to fight Covid-19 in the taxi industry | News24

Gauteng's Department of Transport has launched a new mobile app that will monitor and prevent the spread of Covid-19 in taxis and at taxi ranks.

www.news24.com

First, congratulations to the SA government for creating the smartest AI in the world!


But who is paying for all that? Covid funds? This is the most ridiculous idea.

Obviously the 'marshals' will be getting cash from both sides :-/

And the millions probably paid for the 'app'.

 

[daveza]

None of this makes sense to me.

1st world countries with lower cases but many times the deaths.

And if we are not testing as much and actually have many more cases than the reported figure then our low death numbers make even less sense.

Ps: Murica going to hit 4 million cases later today.

 

[/dev/null]

None of this makes sense to me.

1st world countries with lower cases but many times the deaths.

And if we are not testing as much and actually have many more cases than the reported figure then our low death numbers make even less sense.

Ps: Murica going to hit 4 million cases later today.

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We should have followed the Swedish approach.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

None of this makes sense to me.

1st world countries with lower cases but many times the deaths.

And if we are not testing as much and actually have many more cases than the reported figure then our low death numbers make even less sense.

Ps: Murica going to hit 4 million cases later today.

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Much higher median age in the countries highlighted. Ours is 27.

Country Comparison :: Median age — The World Factbook - Central Intelligence Agency

There is now also an uproar in the UK (see a thread in this section about it) where everyone who tested positive from covid-19 is also assumed to have died from it, even if they die 5 years later in a car crash.