South African Covid-19 News and Discussions 2

[MiW]

Covid-19 rips ANC apart

Damaging claims of profiteering from Covid-19 contracts have split the ANC's top brass along pre-Nasrec factions, as leaders squabbled at the party's national executive committee (NEC) meeting this weekend over how to deal with corruption allegations levelled against its leaders.

www.timeslive.co.za

Its simple, lock em all up... but nope, can't have that, thats un-anc

'Classic whataboutism' - Corruption finger-pointing rocks heated ANC NEC meeting | News24

The NEC met for its second day of a three-day meeting on Saturday where it heard fierce debate over its leaders being fingered in corruption.

www.news24.com

But the discussion quickly descended into mudslinging about how the party should deal with accusations made against its top leaders.

"Every time someone is accused of wrongdoing they point to others and every one points to each other and then no action is taken. It is difficult to hold each other accountable," the second NEC insider said.

Its not about stopping corruption even, it's about how to spin it right.

 

[nivek]

Someone needs to get WHO and the rest of the world on the same page so we can actually understand whats going on. Because you have 1 side: Vaccine companies saying they're imminently ready to launch, Russia is already planning first vaccinations in October, South Africa is building a vaccine manuf plant...Moderna and friends are at the end of Phase 3 trials so that seems positive?

Then you have the other side where Tedros from WHO come on an say we should not put faith in vaccines and this virus and its effects like social distancing and lockdowns will be with us for many years to come?

Tedros and the rest of the WHO are about as honest as the Zuma family

 

[Sinbad]

'Classic whataboutism' - Corruption finger-pointing rocks heated ANC NEC meeting | News24

The NEC met for its second day of a three-day meeting on Saturday where it heard fierce debate over its leaders being fingered in corruption.

www.news24.com

Its not about stopping corruption even, it's about how to spin it right.

Smallanyana skeletons

 

[Geoff.D]

So let us postulate an outcome of this whole messy saga.

The Govt loses. BTSA then has the door open for civil action to recover the loss of income as a result?

 

[Enzo Matrix]

So let us postulate an outcome of this whole messy saga.

The Govt loses. BTSA then has the door open for civil action to recover the loss of income as a result?

And guess who pays the actual money for restitution

 

[MiW]

So let us postulate an outcome of this whole messy saga.

The Govt loses. BTSA then has the door open for civil action to recover the loss of income as a result?

Then the government appeals , 4,5,6 times..Then in 5 years time, we all forgot there was a court case.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

It's a good thing we went into that hard lockdown to fight the virus and get our health care system ready.

I see Cyril is now swerving towards our low case fatality rate of 1.6%....

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Someone needs to get WHO and the rest of the world on the same page so we can actually understand whats going on. Because you have 1 side: Vaccine companies saying they're imminently ready to launch, Russia is already planning first vaccinations in October, South Africa is building a vaccine manuf plant...Moderna and friends are at the end of Phase 3 trials so that seems positive?

Then you have the other side where Tedros from WHO come on an say we should not put faith in vaccines and this virus and its effects like social distancing and lockdowns will be with us for many years to come?

The WHO are now also backtracking on their lockdown advice. They have now changed it to say regional lockdowns are preferable to national lockdowns (most people could have told you that).

The World Health Organisation has urged countries not to reimpose national lockdowns in an attempt to stem the spread of Covid-19 due to the health, social and economic repercussions.

In an exclusive interview with The Telegraph Dr Maria Van Kerkhove, who helps lead the WHO’s pandemic response team as the head of the emerging diseases unit, said that countries should instead adopt localised strategies.

By the end of March, as the coronavirus outbreak spiralled out of control across the globe, well over 100 countries had imposed a full or partial lockdown – affecting billions of people.

Dr Van Kerkhove described these measures as a “blunt, sheer force instrument” that bought countries time to build the public health infrastructure needed to tackle Covid-19.

But reflecting on events since the WHO declared a global health emergency six months ago – when fewer than 8,000 cases and 170 deaths had been reported – she added that the economic, health and social costs of lockdown have been “massive”.

Is Kevin Lancaster related to Van Kerkhove? She used that word again...

 

[Gordon_R]

Not a headline I hoped to see. On the BBC main page:

Coronavirus: South Africa cases pass half million mark

The country has the world's fifth-highest number of infections, and the largest tally in Africa.

www.bbc.com

 

[Geoff.D]

Not a headline I hoped to see. On the BBC main page:

Coronavirus: South Africa cases pass half million mark

The country has the world's fifth-highest number of infections, and the largest tally in Africa.

www.bbc.com

Some careless reporting in this article, not typical of the BBC.
We are in a state of National Disaster, not Emergency, or did I miss something?

 

[Alan]

Some careless reporting in this article, not typical of the BBC.
We are in a state of National Disaster, not Emergency, or did I miss something?

 

[Paulsie]

The WHO are now also backtracking on their lockdown advice. They have now changed it to say regional lockdowns are preferable to national lockdowns (most people could have told you that).

That seems to be a trademark of most in charge these days. Talk sh*t all day long, but as long as it is from position of authority, you can steamroll through walls.

When found out, change your tune and continue steamrolling with equal vehemence.

And don't tell me it was an unknown for all. When you are not sure about something, the words that come out your mouth sound entirely different.

 

[Lupus]

Not a headline I hoped to see. On the BBC main page:

Coronavirus: South Africa cases pass half million mark

The country has the world's fifth-highest number of infections, and the largest tally in Africa.

www.bbc.com

"South African health authorities have said the rate of infection is increasing rapidly, with cases currently concentrated around the capital, Pretoria"
What BS is this? The active cases are rapidly going down, sitting at 30% now. So where is it rapidly increasing? Or does the ANC not know how to count?

 

[Paulsie]

'Classic whataboutism' - Corruption finger-pointing rocks heated ANC NEC meeting | News24

The NEC met for its second day of a three-day meeting on Saturday where it heard fierce debate over its leaders being fingered in corruption.

www.news24.com

Who would have thought that so many ANC siblings are in the field of manufacture of face shields, gloves, masks etc. Really impressive and good on them!!!!

 

[Paulsie]

"South African health authorities have said the rate of infection is increasing rapidly, with cases currently concentrated around the capital, Pretoria"
What BS is this? The active cases are rapidly going down, sitting at 30% now. So where is it rapidly increasing? Or does the ANC not know how to count?

They are probably including the true numbers, the untested ones...

 

[tetrasect]

"South African health authorities have said the rate of infection is increasing rapidly, with cases currently concentrated around the capital, Pretoria"
What BS is this? The active cases are rapidly going down, sitting at 30% now. So where is it rapidly increasing? Or does the ANC not know how to count?

Yeah they don't know how to count because they don't know how to test. The only reason the "official" number of active cases is plateauing is the lack of testing. In reality there are more new daily cases than ever before.

 

[Lupus]

Yeah they don't know how to count because they don't know how to test. The only reason the "official" number of active cases is plateauing is the lack of testing. In reality there are more new daily cases than ever before.

Dropping like flies.

 

[RedViking]

Yeah they don't know how to count because they don't know how to test. The only reason the "official" number of active cases is plateauing is the lack of testing. In reality there are more new daily cases than ever before.

Based on what?

 

[RedViking]

Dropping like flies.

Everywhere....

 

[Lupus]

Everywhere....

Yeah see them everywhere, I'm in Gauteng, the supposed epi centre, still don't know anyone who's had this virus.