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RedViking

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Yeah see them everywhere, I'm in Gauteng, the supposed epi centre, still don't know anyone who's had this virus.
It's because they dead. Since when do dead people walk around? Or have you counted the empty graves?

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Paulsie

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It is well researched, that electromagnetic fields, including the highly pulsed and therefore highly dangerous 5G millimeter wave radiation, act via activation of voltage-gated calcium channels (VGCCs) with VGCC activation producing five different effects, each of which have roles in stimulating the replication and spread of coronaviruses:


1. Excessive intracellular calcium
2. Oxidative stress
3. NF-kappaB elevation
4. Inflammation
5. Apoptosis (programmed cell death)

Don't want to get into 5G debate here, just would like to hear opinion from medical people here as to how points 1-5 are linked to illness etc.

Once again: not airing 5G theory here, simply looking at possible aggravating circumstances
 

Sinbad

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Yeah see them everywhere, I'm in Gauteng, the supposed epi centre, still don't know anyone who's had this virus.
2 people in my immediate team have had relatives with it, one died
4 people who work on the same floor as me had it.
One friend and his son have it.
My tenant had it.

You obviously don't know many people
 

Lupus

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2 people in my immediate team have had relatives with it, one died
4 people who work on the same floor as me had it.
One friend and his son have it.
My tenant had it.

You obviously don't know many people
I know of people within the company, 12 apparently out of 7000. A colleagues cousin had it, a friend's boss. But I didn't know a single one of those people, so my statement still stands I don't know anyone who's had it.
 

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I know of people within the company, 12 apparently out of 7000. A colleagues cousin had it, a friend's boss. But I didn't know a single one of those people, so my statement still stands I don't know anyone who's had it.
Jhb North , small complex , maybe 70 units occupied . One dead, second on ventilator and not looking good.
 

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Polymathic

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Yeah see them everywhere, I'm in Gauteng, the supposed epi centre, still don't know anyone who's had this virus.
You probably know a few people who have tested positive, a lot of people keeping it on the down low because they fear getting shunned by friends, family and peers.
 

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The WHO are now also backtracking on their lockdown advice. They have now changed it to say regional lockdowns are preferable to national lockdowns...
Adjusting strategy based on feedback / as the situation evolves is reasonable and expected.

When politicians unreasonably stick to their guns for fear of someone calling it "backtracking", that's when we get into trouble.
 

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Based on what?

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Based on the fact that we have had a steady rate of increase in cases since the lockdown began until suddenly at the beginning of July we start seeing a downturn.

Why? Because instead of increasing testing we are decreasing the amount of tests done!! On the 28th of July we only tested 28k people which gave us 7k new cases. Then a few days later we test 40k people and get 11k new cases.

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We should be testing at the very least 200k people per day to detect the 50k new daily cases that are happening right now.

Another thing to consider is that only 40% of our testing is actually done by Government. So how do they expect to detect 50k cases with 10 or 20k tests???
 

Paulsie

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Adjusting strategy based on feedback / as the situation evolves is reasonable and expected.

When politicians unreasonably stick to their guns for fear of someone calling it "backtracking", that's when we get into trouble.
Their original strategy was a pure guesswork. Yet they criticized everyone and anyone who did not follow their guesswork.

When they then change their strategy based on feedback (actually closer to those they originally criticized), they are praised for being open minded.
 

Paulsie

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Based on the fact that we have had a steady rate of increase in cases since the lockdown began until suddenly at the beginning of July we start seeing a downturn.

Why? Because instead of increasing testing we are decreasing the amount of tests done!! On the 28th of July we only tested 28k people which gave us 7k new cases. Then a few days later we test 40k people and get 11k new cases.

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We should be testing at the very least 200k people per day to detect the 50k new daily cases that are happening right now.

Another thing to consider is that only 40% of our testing is actually done by Government. So how do they expect to detect 50k cases with 10 or 20k tests???
Spot on!! The fact that the % of positive cases keeps steady at 25-26% clearly shows there's no decline happening in the real world
 

chrisc

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You probably know a few people who have tested positive, a lot of people keeping it on the down low because they fear getting shunned by friends, family and peers.

That's for sure

Good friend (who I used to see at least once a week) about 10 mins drive away was tested positive on 3rd June. He had a bad headache for 3 or 4 days then nothing. He was tested again on 23rd June and pronounced all clear

You should hear the hysterical shouting from other friends, even one of my daughters when I went to pick up something at his house last week. That was a month after he recovered. One of my wife's friends said I should sleep in a separate bedroom and wear a mask with a visor at home

I am told I am putting myself and people at "severe risk" and should be "more responsible:"

They have all gone mad
 

RedViking

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That's for sure

Good friend (who I used to see at least once a week) about 10 mins drive away was tested positive on 3rd June. He had a bad headache for 3 or 4 days then nothing. He was tested again on 23rd June and pronounced all clear

You should hear the hysterical shouting from other friends, even one of my daughters when I went to pick up something at his house last week. That was a month after he recovered. One of my wife's friends said I should sleep in a separate bedroom and wear a mask with a visor at home

I am told I am putting myself and people at "severe risk" and should be "more responsible:"

They have all gone mad
So with how many of your wife's friends do you sleep in the same bedroom? :p
 
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