South African Covid-19 News and Discussions 2

[The_Mowgs]

Government to discuss new lockdown rules for South Africa this week

Government is expected to review some of South Africa’s lockdown regulations when the National Coronavirus Command Council (NCCC) meets on Tuesday (11 August), with early signs pointing to a relaxation in rules.

businesstech.co.za

Sign of things to come next Saturday??

Taxis will probably be allowed to carry up to 160%

 

["D"]

Up to 40% of people have T Cell immunity for SARS related viruses, the theory is that these people have been previously infected by a beta-coronavirus which is gastrointestinal virus in dogs, cattle and rodents but humans don't get sick from these viruses.

40% to 60% of people.

 

[vigras rojara]

I'd take opposition party statement well salted were I you. This looks full of half truths.

Yeah, it would have been good if they'd, you know, compared it to the salary sacrifices City of Cape Town officials/employees of DA controlled administrations gallantly took.

I wonder why they didn't mention that?

 

[Polymathic]

40% to 60% of people.

That could explain how the infection rate of some countries fell drastically in summer, you need 70% to obtain herd immunity

 

["D"]

That could explain how the infection rate of some countries fell drastically in summer, you need 70% to obtain herd immunity

Back in the 80's we as South Africans once achieved herd immunity in winter!

 

[Paulsie]

Taxis will probably be allowed to carry up to 160%

No, that's metrorail in Cpt, but I'm with you there.

 

[HideInLight]

Think the term herd immunity is being massively misused. I prefer to look at it as Herd resistance and diminishing returns and so far it looks like the R rate keeps at 1.05% until it hits the peak (which lasts around 2 weeks) and then you start seeing the charts go below R=1 and that around when the official cases hit 1% of the population in area

In other words you see the total cases double every 14 days until 1% of the population gets infected, then after that it goes in reverse.

So the cases will then double each 28 days, then 56 days, then every 112 days. That's when the R drops 0.95, 0.90

So hitting 70% for "herd immunity" won't really be possible, not within a year or two timeframe, more like 10 years.

 

[Sl8er]

Yeah, it would have been good if they'd, you know, compared it to the salary sacrifices City of Cape Town officials/employees of DA controlled administrations gallantly took.

I wonder why they didn't mention that?

How many?
More than 80,000?

 

[vigras rojara]

How many?
More than 80,000?

Oh, so there were fewer so therefore all good?

Must remember that line next time corruption comes into the discussion.

Reasonable explanation.

 

[Sl8er]

Oh, so there were fewer so therefore all good?

Must remember that line next time corruption comes into the discussion.

Reasonable explanation.

Are you retarded or something?
Please quote where I said it was ok.
Before you do that, though, can you answer the question?

 

[vigras rojara]

Are you retarded or something?
Please quote where I said it was ok.
Before you do that, though, can you answer the question?

Your question isn't specific, but I'll interpret it as you asking me whether the DA had more than 80 000 civil servants under their control and who were left on full pay.

In which case HTF would I know and WTF would it be relevant in any case?

 

[Sl8er]

Your question isn't specific, but I'll interpret it as you asking me whether the DA had more than 80 000 civil servants under their control and who were left on full pay.

In which case HTF would I know and WTF would it be relevant in any case?

Well the anc had 80-something thousand people being paid for nothing.
Then you came in with your "But what about...," making it sound like the DA did the same.
I'm not familiar with any of this and so I asked how bad it was.
Then you went full retard...but whatever.

 

[Geoff.D]

Think the term herd immunity is being massively misused. I prefer to look at it as Herd resistance and diminishing returns and so far it looks like the R rate keeps at 1.05% until it hits the peak (which lasts around 2 weeks) and then you start seeing the charts go below R=1 and that around when the official cases hit 1% of the population in area

In other words you see the total cases double every 14 days until 1% of the population gets infected, then after that it goes in reverse.

So the cases will then double each 28 days, then 56 days, then every 112 days. That's when the R drops 0.95, 0.90

So hitting 70% for "herd immunity" won't really be possible, not within a year or two timeframe, more like 10 years.

Like the way you describe the process whereby infections decrease as the number of infectious people decrease. Makes logical sense.

Except Rt as measured by the mediahack group on their website has already dropped below your values.
The issue is as always, with the accuracy of the accumulated data officially released.
How did you calculate your break points?

 

[vigras rojara]

Well the anc had 80-something thousand people being paid for nothing.
Then you came in with your "But what about...," making it sound like the DA did the same.
I'm not familiar with any of this and so I asked how bad it was.
Then you went full retard...but whatever.

Yep, it's just another case of the DA making allegations without any specifics about their own behaviour. Exactly like they did when pointing at the ANC voting for salary increases while ignoring the fact that the DA did exactly the same in Cape Town.

But I wouldn't expect you to see it. I mean you take the DA's number of 80000 without questioning it in the slightest, so you clearly have a bottle of DA Kool Aid in your fridge.

 

[Sl8er]

Yep, it's just another case of the DA making allegations without any specifics about their own behaviour. Exactly like they did when pointing at the ANC voting for salary increases while ignoring the fact that the DA did exactly the same in Cape Town.

But I wouldn't expect you to see it. I mean you take the DA's number of 80000 without questioning it in the slightest, so you clearly have a bottle of DA Kool Aid in your fridge.

...but whatever.

 

[Sl8er]

Yep, it's just another case of the DA making allegations without any specifics about their own behaviour. Exactly like they did when pointing at the ANC voting for salary increases while ignoring the fact that the DA did exactly the same in Cape Town.

But I wouldn't expect you to see it. I mean you take the DA's number of 80000 without questioning it in the slightest, so you clearly have a bottle of DA Kool Aid in your fridge.

I apologize for being snappy.
That was unnecessary.
Today was just one of "those" days.

 

[vigras rojara]

I apologize for being snappy.
That was unnecessary.
Today was just one of "those" days.

No worries bud, all good. But thanks for saying, that was big of you. Hope your day gets better.

 

[TheChamp]

Mkhize doesn’t own PPE manufacturing company, says Health Ministry

The Health Ministry has denied claims that Minister Zweli Mkhize owns a PPE manufacturing company, slamming the allegations doing the rounds on social media as fake news.

www.iol.co.za

In before Temujin's fake news tweet.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Millions spent on ‘Covid-19 infrastructure’ but municipality has nothing to show for it | City Press

An oversight visit by a North West provincial legislature committee revealed little to show for the funds accounted for in a dubious R93 million Covid-19 coronavirus-related expenditure report by the Ngaka Modiri Molema District Municipality.

www.news24.com

More fraud in the highly corrupt NW. A natural state of being where there is no serious political competition (except in the plantinum belt part of NW) and the voters don't punish the incumbent party.

 

[R13...]

More fraud in the highly corrupt NW.

For some reason I find this Trumpsque bit funny.