South African Covid-19 News and Discussions 3

Forum Reader

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Except my facts are right.
There are based on the last census about 20 million kids in the country below 18.
Next very conveniently, 67% of 60 million comes out as 20 million short.
Then, if you look at the totals of the 3 phases the numbers balance again.
Next nowhere in any of the slides presented does the plan even mention that kids under 18 were excluded from the calcs.
Then to make the whole story look as if is science based they throw in the herd immunity story.
The correct would have been to start with the total estimated population minus the estimated kids under 18, THEN calculate the herd immunity numbers.
No all this is just hide how badly they have and are screwing up negotiations to access vaccinations and how poorly the VAX program as proposed is.

This slide only mentions >18 years and workers (no less than 18 years)

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WorldWarIII

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Im sure its been mentioned already and if so I apologize. Rumours about Level 5 hard lockup again? Something about Cyrils sister. wth.
 

Botha22

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It's interesting that the same people claiming that government did not adequately prepare for the second wave (rightly so), are also the same people who were insisting by October 2020 that all Covid-19 facilities should be shut down as the worst was over.

DA Gauteng Health MEC Jack Bloom:
“This is hugely wasteful expenditure. There were clear signs after the initial alarmist projections that the Covid-19 epidemic would peak in July rather than in August/September as was originally expected.
There was no scenario that infections would be surging in January next year, yet a six month contract for 1,000 beds was signed on 1 August with the Joburg Expo Centre which runs Nasrec.”
 

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Not this week... Next week though after everyone has got back into the work rhythm.. Herr Doekiness and the Don will fsck everything up again.
You really think they have any $ left to pay UIF and extra grants?
 

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Don't know if this was already posted, this thread moves to fast, unfortunately don't have time right now to keep up...
Other than a handful of anti-vaxers, and maybe a few more nervous vaccine-hesitant folk, we all want this vaccine, and we all urgently want it as soon as possible, none more than our heroic frontline healthcare workers. The delay has simply come about as a result of the grotesque selfishness of high-income countries.

Comprising some 13% of the world’s population, they have jumped in, even before the results of clinical trials to assess the efficacy and safety were known, and bought up 51% of the global production of vaccines – in some cases enough for 3 to 5 times their entire populations’ needs. This was done so that at least some of their vaccine purchases would be effective and safe.

However, middle-income countries, like South Africa, would be roundly condemned should they have considered gambling with their much more limited taxpayers’ money for vaccines still undergoing investigative trials, when it was unknown whether they would be safe and effective.

The impatience, the anxiety and the dissatisfaction are understandable. The Covid-19 pandemic of 2020 has taken a tremendous toll of illness, loss of life and loss of livelihood. There has also been a very significant intrusion into people’s quality of life. Not unexpectedly, people are tired of these encumbrances, irritations and invasions into their daily living. ‘If only we had a vaccine this would all go away’; ‘If only the government had not been so inept, we would not have to continue with these restrictions’.

Regrettably, the reality is that the vaccine will not be a magic wand and any suggestion that it may be, is dangerously threatening the public motivation to continue with the non-pharmaceutical interventions, which are so critical for the control of the epidemic.

The vaccine grab by the wealthy nations has not only harmed the middle- and lower-income world (the latter depending solely on COVAX), but it is, in fact, also short-sighted. Pandemic infections can only be controlled ift hey are controlled globally, and that means every country, wealthy and poor.

The delay for South Africa is, of course, deeply regrettable and unfortunate, especially for our vulnerable and indispensable healthcare workers. However, it does offer us a short breathing space, enabling us to even better assess and evaluate those vaccines being deployed in the field in the developed world. How are these completely novel vaccines faring in the field situation? How they perform in millions of recipients may not always be identical to their behaviour in the few thousands of volunteers within the structured environment of the clinical trial. (As one example, it has now been reported that severe allergic reaction, anaphylaxis, has been seen, albeit rarely, but 10 times more commonly with the Pfizer vaccine than with other vaccines, which is now necessitating a specific warning to allergy-prone individuals).

The United Kingdom, one of the first countries in the world to roll out vaccines at the beginning of December, is currently experiencing a second wave considerably greater than the first wave. It is still experiencing a daily new infection rate nearly three times that of South Africa, while it is battling the disease with one of the harshest lockdowns in the world.

Arguably, there may well seem to be a lacuna in communicating adequate assurance to the public. But let me state that there are indeed very extensive behind-the-scenes efforts to acquire safe and effective vaccines as soon as possible, and also to develop a comprehensive vaccine strategy.

Finally, I would like to address an urgent and earnest appeal to civil society groups – please stop insinuating false hopes and expectations to the public for immediate solutions to the Covid-19 crisis. These only serve to compromise, and even jeopardise, the critical current imperative to maintain the, maybe less palatable, but critically needed, Covid-19 prevention precautions.
 

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“We also need to remind South Africans that spreading fake news or disinformation about Covid-19 is a punishable offence.

I'm sure he will be arrested tomorrow.
 
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