South African Covid-19 News and Discussions 3

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Moderna Offers South Africa Vaccines in First for Continent

Can we thank Peter Bruce I wonder?

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Latest numbers: SA will get 1% of early Covax shots – but 10% of all Pfizer doses | Business Insider

Pfizer's Covid-19 vaccine requires ultra-low temperatures, and the global split of vaccines is pointing a disproportionate number of them to South Africa – though the local cold chain logistics are not yet settled.

www.businessinsider.co.za

So we are getting 10% of all Pfizer vaccines and don't have the facilities to store and distribute them ?

Actually Covax has somehow deemed SA as suitable for the Pfizer one (not sure how they reached that conclusion) - you'll notice SA is one of three sub-saharan African countries who can actually store this vaccine.

 

[daveza]

Actually Covax has somehow deemed SA as suitable for the Pfizer one (not sure how they reached that conclusion) - you'll notice SA is one of three sub-saharan African countries who can actually store this vaccine.

We can store it, but can we transport and distribute it.

 

[Captain Beer]

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

New Zealand and South Korea are part of the Covax scheme. I mean really?!

Quite impressed Rwanda has cold storage facilities for the Pfizer one.

 

[Geoff.D]

New Zealand and South Korea are part of the Covax scheme. I mean really?!

Quite impressed Rwanda has cold storage facilities for the Pfizer one.

Why? That country is very efficient compared to most it its neighbours and even us.

 

[MiW]

https://www.gavi.org/sites/default/files/covid/covax/COVAX-Interim-Distribution-Forecast.pdf

(2) Whether or not the participant had already initiated vaccination: As the intent of this initial roll-out was to allow participants to introduce a vaccine, it was stipulated that Participants that have initiated their COVID vaccination programme as of 29 January will not be included in the first exceptional allocation round for the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine

Is that the reason we were stalling?

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1357283372612149248

 

[dualmeister]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1357283372612149248

Those shelves don't don't look like they support 2°C to 8°C?

 

[MiW]

Those shelves don't don't look like they support 2°C to 8°C?

 

[dualmeister]

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Still not sure why they showing boxes on the shelves. Random I guess.

 

[Polymathic]

New Zealand and South Korea are part of the Covax scheme. I mean really?!

Quite impressed Rwanda has cold storage facilities for the Pfizer one.

Rwanda getting money from Japanese, Koreans and the Chinese. Unlike the ANC their leaders know how to play the geopolitical game

 

[pinball wizard]

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I'm still waiting on an actual whole number of total deaths for 2020. Anyone?

 

[Geoff.D]

Just about every restaurant with a walk-in Fridge can get down to - 10 deg C. This issue is not such a big problem everyone thinks.

 

[Supervan II]

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That is definitely NOT the way to store anything between 2°C and 8°C!

Those gel packs will hardly keep the temperature within the required range for longer than 20 hours - and that's pushing it.

 

[Polymathic]

Hol'up is the J&J vaccine single dose?

 

[Supervan II]

Just about every restaurant with a walk-in Fridge can get down to - 10 deg C. This issue is not such a big problem everyone thinks.

You have obviously never delivered anything to a state hospital.

Firstly, they insist that everything gets delivered to their store - and then, if it doesn't it go AWOL, they just put it down anywhere and everywhere - even leave it outside, if they are going on a tea-/lunch-break.

FTR, none of their stores are temperature controlled, and I am talking about <25°C for most medications/drips/drugs.

 

[MiW]

That is definitely NOT the way to store anything between 2°C and 8°C!

Those gel packs will hardly keep the temperature within the required range for longer than 20 hours - and that's pushing it.

It's not the gel packs , look how the guy is dressed.

 

[Supervan II]

It's not the gel packs , look how the guy is dressed.

I saw that - he appears to be in a normal walk-in fridge (between 2°C and 8°C). The gel-packs are supposed to be frozen before use.

 

[MiW]

I'm still waiting on an actual whole number of total deaths for 2020. Anyone?

I never know if you ask sincerely...but if you do , below are the stats they use to make the average death rate and calculate the excess. Excess for 2020 was around 100k I think.