South African Covid-19 News and Discussions 3

[pinball wizard]

I never know if you ask sincerely...but if you do , below are the stats they use to make the average death rate and calculate the excess. Excess for 2020 was around 100k I think.

I'm dead serious here.

I see those as you posted as total deaths for the year? Where are 2018, 2019 and 2020 actuals? That's all I'm asking for. Hell, not even '18 and '19, just '20 will do.

I know they use some thumbsuck to tell us excess deaths prediction. But can we have the actual number of dead over the last year from anyone? Excess excess, it's history now, can we all bin the prediction and get an actual number? Surely it exists with the morbid death cult way of counting things last year?

 

[MiW]

I'm dead serious here.

I see those as you posted as total deaths for the year? Where are 2018, 2019 and 2020 actuals? That's all I'm asking for. Hell, not even '18 and '19, just '20 will do.

I know they use some thumbsuck to tell us excess deaths prediction. But can we have the actual number of dead over the last year from anyone? Excess excess, it's history now, can we all bin the prediction and get an actual number? Surely it exists with the morbid death cult way of counting things last year?

StatSA takes 3 years to compile their reports , so you wont find official one. My 'educated' guess its ~575 000 total deaths for 2020.

 

[Geoff.D]

You have obviously never delivered anything to a state hospital.

Firstly, they insist that everything gets delivered to their store - and then, if it doesn't it go AWOL, they just put it down anywhere and everywhere - even leave it outside, if they are going on a tea-/lunch-break.

FTR, none of their stores are temperature controlled, and I am talking about <25°C for most medications/drips/drugs.

Ja. I am not denying it. My daughter can tell us all plenty of horror stories about how supplies and equipment get handled before it gets to an operating theatre. I am just saying everyone is on a mission about the temperature issue when there are much bigger things to worry about.

 

[Geoff.D]

StatSA takes 3 years to compile their reports , so you wont find official one. My 'educated' guess its ~575 000 total deaths for 2020.

This. And that is why the SAMRC unit came into being ---- because everyone had to get better data in the interim.

 

[Oldfut]

Tiny rant. The SA covid vaccine and general treatment is a vicious farce from the ANC regime's side. Shortages and late acquisition are criminal; similar to Mbeki's AIDS deaths, Marikana and Esidimeni. But you can be sure that, by now, the ANC Big Bosses, family and friends have all been vaccinated and vaccines are in a brand new imported fridge for multiple shots. So they do not give a fig about SA's people. Just personal power and loot.

 

[R13...]

Tiny rant. The SA covid vaccine and general treatment is a vicious farce from the ANC regime's side. Shortages and late acquisition are criminal; similar to Mbeki's AIDS deaths, Marikana and Esidimeni. But you can be sure that, by now, the ANC Big Bosses, family and friends have all been vaccinated and vaccines are in a brand new imported fridge for multiple shots. So they do not give a fig about SA's people. Just personal power and loot.

Misguided rant.
Mbeki's denial is different as it was a personal belief he held. The ANC failed to acquire the vaccine due to poor planning because of their incompetence, lack of money (pandemic and rampant stealing during the PPE scandals).

You're wrong about any of them being vaccinated.

 

[pinball wizard]

StatSA takes 3 years to compile their reports , so you wont find official one. My 'educated' guess its ~575 000 total deaths for 2020.

So, 50-75k less than 2006? Why did we kill the economy again? And maybe around the same number as 2010 etc? You see why we would want actual numbers here?

 

[Lupus]

So, 50-75k less than 2006? Why did we kill the economy again? And maybe around the same number as 2010 etc? You see why we would want actual numbers here?

Cause the world went mad over the virus, the entire world. I wonder how it would've reacted in 2009/2010 before the world went soft.

 

[Geoff.D]

Misguided rant.
Mbeki's denial is different as it was a personal belief he held. The ANC failed to acquire the vaccine due to poor planning because of their incompetence, lack of money (pandemic and rampant stealing during the PPE scandals).

You're wrong about any of them being vaccinated.

He is wrong about them being vaccinated now.
They are all due to be jabbed before month end as "Honorary Health Workers".

 

[MiW]

15 million doses of Sputnik vaccine ready for South Africa, pharma company says | News24

As soon as it gets emergency approval from the local authorities, the vaccines could be sent to SA.

www.businessinsider.co.za

 

[The_Librarian]

15 million doses of Sputnik vaccine ready for South Africa, pharma company says | News24

As soon as it gets emergency approval from the local authorities, the vaccines could be sent to SA.

www.businessinsider.co.za

Sputnik, as in the Russian gebleepending that went to space?

 

[copacetic]

 

[Oldfut]

Misguided rant.
Mbeki's denial is different as it was a personal belief he held. The ANC failed to acquire the vaccine due to poor planning because of their incompetence, lack of money (pandemic and rampant stealing during the PPE scandals).

You're wrong about any of them being vaccinated.

Reasonable defensive effort but outcome similar; people dying unnecessarily due to callous indifference by the ANC. Ubuntu ANC style.

 

[MiW]

Confirmed: SA will use J&J vaccines in its rollout program

The health minister also addressed concerns about the expiry date of the received AstraZeneca vaccine batches. #VaccineforSA #Covid19

www.iol.co.za

Mkhize also mentioned that they were in advanced stages of evaluating and engaging the manufacturers of the Sputnik -V candidate.

Engagements with Sinopharm also continue with an offer made by China currently being considered.

Yeah, because the above are surely more effective than AZ

 

[pinball wizard]

Mkhize also mentioned that they were in advanced stages of evaluating and engaging the manufacturers of the Sputnik -V candidate.

Awesome. I will get Vodka to wash the sputnik down with.

 

[Geoff.D]

NO test result are available to confirm that the Sputnik and J&J is effective against the SA variant.
So, this is just abunch of idiots clinging to the only straw in the pond.

 

[MiW]

Awesome. I will get Vodka to wash the sputnik down with.

Even the Russians didn't want to get it ...

 

[MiW]

NO test result are available to confirm that the Sputnik and J&J is effective against the SA variant.
So, this is just abunch of idiots clinging to the only straw in the pond.

Nah, I smell corruption and opportunities with the Sputnik, it wasn't a government choice, but some pharma company pushing to import it.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

NO test result are available to confirm that the Sputnik and J&J is effective against the SA variant.
So, this is just abunch of idiots clinging to the only straw in the pond.

I think there is a test result regarding the J&J vaccine against the SA variant.

 

[MiW]

I think there is a test result regarding the J&J vaccine against the SA variant.

'J&J prevents severe Covid and death'
'AZ doesn't prevent mild and moderate cases'

Imo this statements say exactly the same, AZ should work on their marketing skills.