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flytek

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Let's talk again in 4 weeks about the accuracy of the graphs and your prediction.

Ergo
Current vaccines will work as designed then.

Let's wait on the accuracy of your prediction

Who is panicking?
Do you have other graphs or data that dispute both the South African cases massive decline and the WC deaths massive decline?
The vaccines may work sure...but on what...few are getting infected in SA anymore until a mythical third wave caused by a mythical mutation magically appears and then they might be useless against that mutation.
 

surface

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Well done to President taking Jab. He didn't wait to see effect on general public like some cowardly president/prime ministers of many countries.
 

Geoff.D

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Well done to President taking Jab. He didn't wait to see effect on general public like some cowardly president/prime ministers of many countries.
BS! He is an Honorary Health Worker. Nothing to do with being brave, or honourable or any other other higher moral value you might want to come up with.
 

quovadis

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Well done to President taking Jab. He didn't wait to see effect on general public like some cowardly president/prime ministers of many countries.
It's quite the opposite. No president or public official of a country would want to be seen to be skipping the line prior to general public availability even if demand exceeds supply. He has enough resources to ensure proper mitigation for himself and cabinet.
 

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Well done to President taking Jab. He didn't wait to see effect on general public like some cowardly president/prime ministers of many countries.
It was the traditional "bait and switch".

He was told he would be mainlining Johnny Walker blue.
But instead the illuminati / Rothschilds / Bilderberg Group / Bill Gates, injected him with a chip enabling remote control of South Africa's government.
 

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It was the traditional "bait and switch".

He was told he would be mainlining Johnny Walker blue.
But instead the illuminati / Rothschilds / Bilderberg Group / Bill Gates, injected him with a chip enabling remote control of South Africa's government.
yes, I forgot about this. Now, I hear that NdZ was behind this. How ingenious.
 

Geoff.D

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It was the traditional "bait and switch".

He was told he would be mainlining Johnny Walker blue.
But instead the illuminati / Rothschilds / Bilderberg Group / Bill Gates, injected him with a chip enabling remote control of South Africa's government.
They are already on remote control. The only debate is WHO is holding the remote?
 

Grant

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It's quite the opposite. No president or public official of a country would want to be seen to be skipping the line prior to general public availability even if demand exceeds supply. He has enough resources to ensure proper mitigation for himself and cabinet.
Things are a bit different here - especially when you have a lunatic chief justice declaring the vaccines to be satanic and people must pray
They are already on remote control. The only debate is WHO is holding the remote?
Who is?
 

JohnJuniorV3

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So worse then. 48 jabs per torturer per day. At 6 x60 work minutes, 7.5 minutes per jab!
Pa-the-tic!
And it has nothing to do with the available jabs, it is about process efficiency.
It literally has to do with the availability of the doses?.. There is no point in pulling out HCWs from their everyday activities to administer 80 000 vaccines in 2 days to then wait for 2 weeks to do it again. It disrupts the system.
I am registered as a “torturer” as you say, I have not been asked to do vaccinations yet, however when the AstraZeneca rollout was going to occur it was different as there was a million doses on standby.
 

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It literally has to do with the availability of the doses?.. There is no point in pulling out HCWs from their everyday activities to administer 80 000 vaccines in 2 days to then wait for 2 weeks to do it again. It disrupts the system.
I am registered as a “torturer” as you say, I have not been asked to do vaccinations yet, however when the AstraZeneca rollout was going to occur it was different as there was a million doses on standby.
Except that in pandemic, you really want to vaccinate faster...every day counts.
 

JohnJuniorV3

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Except that in pandemic, you really want to vaccinate faster...every day counts.
Absolutely agree, however one can not disrupt our already fragile health care system. I believe the government is approaching medical, nursing and BCMP students to assist with the rollout to avoid this issue.
 

flytek

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We decry the fact that 30/50 people are murdered a day and you feel >200 dead of COVID per day is nothing?
Don't put words in my mouth.
What I mean by saying that almost no-one is dying from covid in SA anymore is in comparison the the peaks of the waves.
We are now losing probably 5% a day or less than we were 6 weeks ago and that number is falling.
What I mean is that the current strains are for all intents and purposes done in SA.
Or can someone point me to some data or graph that shows otherwise?
 

surface

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Things are a bit different here - especially when you have a lunatic chief justice declaring the vaccines to be satanic and people must pray
Exactly. Different reasons in different countries. Some presidents may have acted in good faith. In India, Prime minister and huge number of ministers still haven't taken a jab yet and that has resulted in low confidence all over. Same could have been here considering garlic and potato syndrome with some.
 

C4Cat

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It's quite the opposite. No president or public official of a country would want to be seen to be skipping the line prior to general public availability even if demand exceeds supply. He has enough resources to ensure proper mitigation for himself and cabinet.
If they didn't take the vaccine first you'd get idiots here saying 'why should we take a vaccine that the president and other public officials are refusing to take? What do they know that we don't? If they refuse it there is no way I'm taking it!'... Can't win here
 

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Can any bright person explain this , please.

“It’s brilliant news and shows we are protected against severe Covid. The vaccine can avert death and hospitalisation, and it reduces the burden of the disease,”

Globally, the vaccine showed 66% efficacy against mild to severe Covid-19 and had an 85% hit rate against severe forms of the disease.

What about the 15% . If there were no hospitalizations and deaths , as claimed, why only 85% ?
 

pinball wizard

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Do you have other graphs or data that dispute both the South African cases massive decline and the WC deaths massive decline?
The vaccines may work sure...but on what...few are getting infected in SA anymore until a mythical third wave caused by a mythical mutation magically appears and then they might be useless against that mutation.
Wait, I know. Excess deaths.
 
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