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daveza

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.... when Bangladesh has done 30 times the number of vaccines compared to South Africa.......
A pretty useless plot. The raw numbers might matter to some but the real number is one compared to population, total, at-risk and possibly, the value required to reach herd immunity. Each time I see these plots, the first thought is what % of .......
 
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Can we sum up this article as the medical establishment have little clue about what is going on and so their "interventions" are possibly not useful as well? Of course, low-cost interventions like masks are fine (to a degree) but shutting businesses is not.

South Africa’s Drop in Covid-19 Cases Adds to Questions About Waves of Infections

Since mid-January, confirmed Covid-19 infections in South Africa have fallen from a record of nearly 22,000 a day to around 1,000, without a large-scale vaccination campaign or stringent lockdown. Fewer than 5% of Covid-19 tests are finding traces of the virus, a sign that health agencies are missing fewer cases. The government has lifted most of its remaining virus restrictions for the country of 60 million people
“Anybody who professes certainty [about why infections started dropping] is lying,” said Harry Moultrie, a senior medical epidemiologist at South Africa’s National Institute for Communicable Diseases, or NICD. “There is so much uncertainty in all of this.”
In contrast to the slump in cases much of Europe experienced last summer, the current drop in infections in South Africa didn’t follow a strict government-imposed lockdown. At the turn of the year, which overlaps with the Southern Hemisphere’s main summer vacation, the government closed popular beaches, tightened the nightly curfew and banned large social gatherings and the sale of alcohol. A national mask mandate has been in place since April 2020.

Indoor dining at limited capacity, however, was permitted throughout and many families came together for Christmas and New Year’s. Most restrictions came only after tens of thousands of South Africans working in economic centers like Johannesburg had already traveled to see family in provinces where Covid-19 case numbers were double the records set in July, during the first wave. Workers’ return home in early January, often piled into shared minibus taxis that are a common means of public transport in South Africa, created perfect conditions for the virus to spread.
 

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The latest Rt figures for SA are already showing signs of a resurgence. So the hype and euphoria about the latest low figures do not make any sense whatsoever.
The third wave is already on its way, just like the way the water recedes before the next wave at the beach.
 
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A pretty useless plot. The raw numbers might matter to some but the real number is one compared to population, total, at-risk and possibly, the value required to reach herd immunity. Each time I see these plots, the first thought is what % of .......
What plot?
 

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The latest Rt figures for SA are already showing signs of a resurgence. So the hype and euphoria about the latest low figures do not make any sense whatsoever.
The third wave is already on its way, just like the way the eater recedes before the next wave at the beach.
3rd wave??
Done you remember all the denialists scoffing at the prospect of the continual resurgence of this virus???


**the convenience of selective memory**
 

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The latest Rt figures for SA are already showing signs of a resurgence. So the hype and euphoria about the latest low figures do not make any sense whatsoever.
The third wave is already on its way, just like the way the eater recedes before the next wave at the beach.
What figures ?
 

Geoff.D

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3rd wave??
Done you remember all the denialists scoffing at the prospect of the continual resurgence of this virus???


**the convenience of selective memory**
Denialists have their own opinions does not mean all of us on the forum agree with them
 

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We made nukes and oil from coal , now we can't manufacture plastic syringes ?
We can but nobody thought about it. Just like with everything else, unless it's burned down, there's no need to worry
 

daveza

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We can but nobody thought about it. Just like with everything else, unless it's burned down, there's no need to worry


How long can it take to tool up a plastics factory and churn them out by the millions instead of just 'being worried by the shortage'. :confused:
 

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3rd wave??
Done you remember all the denialists scoffing at the prospect of the continual resurgence of this virus???


**the convenience of selective memory**
There is a difference between denialists and those who believe the virus will make its way and its own waves, regardless of interventions
 
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