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Brawler

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This won't be an issue yet, and probably will become less of an issue over time but at the moment, basically, anyone who does anything in health (even if you are an administrator working from home) can be vaccinated and I'm quite astounded at how many people have declined so far.
 
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30% or?
MyBb poll indicated about 70% wanted a vaccine. I wonder what it is now particularly amoung younger health professionals?
 

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Indian variant confirmed in SA.
Four cases of the B.1.617.2 variant, 1st detected in India, have been detected in SA - 2 in Gauteng; 2 in KZN. 1. All cases traveled from India to SA (all = in isolation in SA). 2. 11 cases of the B.1.1.7 variant, 1st detected in the UK, have also been confirmed.

 
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30% or?
MyBb poll indicated about 70% wanted a vaccine. I wonder what it is now particularly amoung younger health professionals?
From those I know about, +/- 16, about 50% declined.
Basically, everyone that goes near a clinic has taken it plus those involved in research seem quite keen.
It's mainly software developers that have declined (they are now eligible if working in Health, it's really opened up in the last week or so).
Age hasn't been a factor. Interestingly, a few with comorbidities have declined.
This is all from a very small sample size but I still found it interesting.
 

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I'm sorry to be a Karen today but I'm feeling anxious.

I am younger than 60 & 40.

I have health issues and placed on medication that suppresses your immune system.

Why aren't younger people with health conditions in the vaccination plan?
 

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You need to ask your doctor to motivate your getting a vaccine. A local friend who has MS and is 46 years old got her vaccine in Feb after her consultant applied for it
 

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Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine for SA has '95% success rate'​

The Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine, 325,000 doses of which landed in Johannesburg this week, offers 95% protection against hospitalisation and death, according to a big new study from Israel published in the Lancet medical journal this week.

The latest results are further evidence that the two Covid-19 vaccines to be rolled out to South Africans from May 17 — the Pfizer/BioNTech and Johnson & Johnson vaccines — offer real protection.

The J&J vaccine is the only Covid-19 vaccine tested in a big study, of 44,000 participants, against the B1.351 variant of Covid-19 dominant in SA. The vaccine was found to offer 64% protection against severe disease and death. It also has the advantage of being a single-dose vaccine.
 
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Can't the US gift us some of the extra vaccines?! :p But more seriously this will become quite a big issue in the latter half of the year when most developed countries will have excess vaccines.

U.S. states are turning down hundreds of thousands of doses as demand plummets.

Several states are turning away Covid vaccine doses from their federal government allocations, as the daily average of coronavirus vaccine doses administered across the United States has fallen below two million for the first time since early March. Experts say the states’ smaller requests reflect a steep drop in vaccine demand in the United States.

Wisconsin officials have asked for just 8 percent of the 162,680 doses the federal government had set aside for the state next week, according to The Associated Press. In Iowa, officials asked for just 29 percent of the state’s allocated doses. And in Illinois, the state is planning to request just 9 percent of its allotted doses for everywhere, except for Chicago, for next week, The A.P. reported.

North Carolina, South Carolina, Washington State and Connecticut are also scaling back on their vaccine requests.

As demand falls and the spread of the virus slows in the United States, the Biden administration is under increasing pressure to share vaccine doses with countries like India, which has been ravaged by a catastrophic surge. About 83 percent of shots have been administered in high- and upper-middle-income countries, while only 0.3 percent of doses have been given in low-income countries.

Dr. Amesh A. Adalja, an infectious disease physician at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, said that a shift in U.S. demand was expected. After people who were most eager to be vaccinated had shots, he said, the rollout of vaccines “was going to be a much more challenging prospect.”

There remain people who are hesitant to take the vaccine or may have other reasons for not doing so, and that has led to a drop in demand, Dr. Adalja said. Nationwide, since a mid-April peak of some 3.38 million doses administered each day, daily average doses have fallen by about 41 percent. In turn, that has left states ordering fewer doses than they had at first.

But some places, like New York City, Maryland and Colorado, are still asking for the full amount, The A.P. found.

To increase demand once more, officials need to make it as convenient as possible, Dr. Adalja said, including expanding the availability of walk-in clinics and even door-to-door vaccinations.

The Johnson & Johnson vaccine is notably convenient, since it’s only one dose, and can be stored at normal refrigeration temperatures for at least three months, making its distribution considerably easier. But allocations of that have remained low nationally after a pause over extremely rare cases of blood clots was lifted last month, and that has contributed to the drop in vaccinations being given more broadly.

“Once you paused the vaccine, it was going to be very hard to unpause it,” Dr. Adalja said.

President Biden, confronting lagging vaccinations, has shifted the administration’s strategy to battle the pandemic. Changes include creating a federal stockpile of vaccine doses to given to states as needed, instead of strictly by population, and investing millions in community outreach to target underserved communities, younger Americans and those hesitant to get shots.

Mass vaccination sites will be wind down in favor of smaller settings. Pharmacies will allow people to walk in for shots, and pop-up and mobile clinics will distribute vaccines, especially in rural areas. Federal officials also plan to enlist the help of family doctors and other emissaries who are trusted voices in their communities.

Dr. Adalja suggested that federal health guidance should take care to avoid “underselling the vaccine” as the nation tries to get more people vaccinated. Guidance on issues such traveling and mask-wearing can be loosened “aggressively” for vaccinated people, Dr. Adalja said. “They seem to be several steps behind what infectious disease doctors like myself are telling people that are fully vaccinated what they can do.”

Experts warn that states where vaccinations are falling behind — particularly in the South — could be especially prone to outbreaks in the weeks ahead as more contagious virus variants spread. Texas and North Carolina are trailing the national average in vaccinations, with about 40 percent of people receiving at least one shot. In Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana, about a third of residents have gotten their first shot.

 

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Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine for SA has '95% success rate'​

The Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine, 325,000 doses of which landed in Johannesburg this week, offers 95% protection against hospitalisation and death, according to a big new study from Israel published in the Lancet medical journal this week.

The latest results are further evidence that the two Covid-19 vaccines to be rolled out to South Africans from May 17 — the Pfizer/BioNTech and Johnson & Johnson vaccines — offer real protection.

The J&J vaccine is the only Covid-19 vaccine tested in a big study, of 44,000 participants, against the B1.351 variant of Covid-19 dominant in SA. The vaccine was found to offer 64% protection against severe disease and death. It also has the advantage of being a single-dose vaccine.
J&j reporting a bit off.
64% efficacy against moderate to severe, not severe to death. There were 0 deaths in the trial.
The percentage goes up to 82% 28 days after the shot.
 

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If I remember correctly there were no deaths in the placebo either, so doesn't mean much.
Possibly in the SA trial (I haven't seen the break down) but in the overall trial of 44000, there were deaths in the placebo group but not in the group that received the shot.
 

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From those I know about, +/- 16, about 50% declined.
Basically, everyone that goes near a clinic has taken it plus those involved in research seem quite keen.
It's mainly software developers that have declined (they are now eligible if working in Health, it's really opened up in the last week or so).
Age hasn't been a factor. Interestingly, a few with comorbidities have declined.
This is all from a very small sample size but I still found it interesting.
Out of interest, were you eligible to get the J&J vaccine and if so, what side effects did you get? I'm having mine today.

Apparently there are just over 100 000 of the Sisonke trial vaccines that have not yet been utilised, hence this push.

Haven't been following this thread in the event that you've already stated so.
 
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But the "experts" are already calling for a higher lockdown level.... unfortunately can't read beyond the first few paragraphs but headline is sufficient in this case.
I would be in support of additional measures even if it's as simple as curfew and alcohol enforcement which seems to have a decent enough effect in ZA. Every country has experienced additional waves so thinking ZA would manage to avoid a wave is wishful thinking.
 

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Out of interest, were you eligible to get the J&J vaccine and if so, what side effects did you get? I'm having mine today.

Apparently there are a few 100 000 of the Sisonke trial vaccines that have not yet been utilised, hence this push.

Haven't been following this thread in the event that you've already stated so.
Yes last Monday.
I had 5 minutes of shivers on Monday night and mild hangover on Tuesday and that's it.
 

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I would be in support of additional measures even if it's as simple as curfew and alcohol enforcement which seems to have a decent enough effect in ZA. Every country has experienced additional waves so thinking ZA would manage to avoid a wave is wishful thinking.
The insanity of citizens begging for their constitutionally guaranteed rights to be usurped.

**** me.
 
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