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ShaunSA
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You guys made the claim
Having said that there are always one or two batschit crazy forumites. Killadoob springs to mind
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You guys made the claim
Having said that there are always one or two batschit crazy forumites. Killadoob springs to mind
The_Right_Honourable_Brit
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Except @surface by using the word "experts" (plural) is attempting to make the claim, in his usual sarcastic way, that it's a widely-held belief on here or at the very least, has significant currency. It doesn't.
Correct. The magic microbe is a hoax.
ShaunSA
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R13...
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You said, "I haven't seen ANYONE make that argument...". That's what I responded to.
No worries. I'm just helping you with your claim. There's others on here, but with no balls. Always use loophole language...guess they still want to fit in with the cool clever okes.
ShaunSA
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Because I hadn't
The_Right_Honourable_Brit
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New bill seeks to limit Cogta minister's power on the state of disaster
FF+ leader Pieter Groenewald yesterday sponsored private members bill that seeks to give the power to the National Assembly to extend the state of disaster should the new bill passed into law.
Long shot obviously but well done to the FF
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We ARE in a constant state of disaster, so what gives?!New bill seeks to limit Cogta minister's power on the state of disaster
FF+ leader Pieter Groenewald yesterday sponsored private members bill that seeks to give the power to the National Assembly to extend the state of disaster should the new bill passed into law.www.sowetanlive.co.za
Long shot obviously but well done to the FF
The_Right_Honourable_Brit
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Who is the chair now these days? A complete Mkhize lackey?
Geoff.D
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Some or other politically correct appointment. A women but as the person is never seen or heard of, I don't know for sure who it is.
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Some points I picked up from the short interview today televised on CH 404.
1. It is pretty clear that the govt is using data and stats that is different from that we see in the public domain.
2. A good explanation was verbally given as to how the govt is determining the current 3rd wave status, and why the case figures do not reflect actual situation.
3. That previous exposure to Covid 19 does NOT give anyone immunity against the new variants out there, hence why people are getting infected more than once.
4. The anti body tests are showing that for every 1 confirmed case, there are 9 more that no one knew or knows about.
5. That the herd immunity idea is pretty much a fallacy at the moment and that most probably, everyone would have to be vaccinated and not the current target of 40 million.
6. That the third wave started weeks ago in some provinces, but that the national figures are only now starting to show the 3rd wave as the more populous provinces start showing the resurgence.
7. That in the present situation where our VAX program is basically non existent, that there will be no other outcome but for a move to a higher level of LD again, as too many people are becoming complacent again.
8. The prof suggests that large event control will virtually be guaranteed to be part of new measures.
9. The prof said that health facilities must all start gearing up for an inrush again.
That signals to me that stupid measures such changes to curfew and alcohol sales restrictions could easily be imposed again as well.
1. It is pretty clear that the govt is using data and stats that is different from that we see in the public domain.
2. A good explanation was verbally given as to how the govt is determining the current 3rd wave status, and why the case figures do not reflect actual situation.
3. That previous exposure to Covid 19 does NOT give anyone immunity against the new variants out there, hence why people are getting infected more than once.
4. The anti body tests are showing that for every 1 confirmed case, there are 9 more that no one knew or knows about.
5. That the herd immunity idea is pretty much a fallacy at the moment and that most probably, everyone would have to be vaccinated and not the current target of 40 million.
6. That the third wave started weeks ago in some provinces, but that the national figures are only now starting to show the 3rd wave as the more populous provinces start showing the resurgence.
7. That in the present situation where our VAX program is basically non existent, that there will be no other outcome but for a move to a higher level of LD again, as too many people are becoming complacent again.
8. The prof suggests that large event control will virtually be guaranteed to be part of new measures.
9. The prof said that health facilities must all start gearing up for an inrush again.
That signals to me that stupid measures such changes to curfew and alcohol sales restrictions could easily be imposed again as well.
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Ref point 2.
Are you saying that the current cases are way higher than what we see being published.(which I know in general there is unreported cases)
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Honestly this is the problem I've been saying. Why are we counting this every day if the numbers presented aren't right, also what basis are they basing the not being immune on?
If that was the case then a vaccine wouldn't work on the new strain, as it would teach the immune system to fight the wrong strain, that would also mean the virus has mutated to far. Also where is the proper news of re infections? After a year it still feels like the SA side is floundering.
Did not see the interview, or know who was interviewed, but as before my experience on the ground reflects closely the official figures. As yet KZN according to official figures has minimal transmission and local experience is the same. No current admissions in my hospital and very infrequent positive cases from the EU. It's only the calm before the storm though. Getting my head ready to do it all again.