South African Covid-19 News and Discussions 3

[LCBXX]

I never said lockdown was the only variable involved

Lockdowns hardly seem to make a difference anywhere from where I'm standing.

 

[C4Cat]

Lockdowns hardly seem to make a difference anywhere from where I'm standing.

Depends what you mean by 'make a difference' - lockdowns slow the spread of the virus, doesn't stop it and may not ultimately lower the number of people who will get it, but it does slow it down. This gives health services more breathing space to cope with the numbers, and also gives time for more people to get vaccinated. The only way the virus can spread is through the interaction of people - decrease the amount of interaction between people and you decrease the ability of the virus to spread.

 

[LCBXX]

Depends what you mean by 'make a difference' - lockdowns slow the spread of the virus, doesn't stop it and may not ultimately lower the number of people who will get it, but it does slow it down. This gives health services more breathing space to cope with the numbers, and also gives time for more people to get vaccinated. The only way the virus can spread is through the interaction of people - decrease the amount of interaction between people and you decrease the ability of the virus to spread.

I think we're beyond any of these reasons meaning anything in the South African context. Way beyond.

 

[Geoff.D]

Depends what you mean by 'make a difference' - lockdowns slow the spread of the virus, doesn't stop it and may not ultimately lower the number of people who will get it, but it does slow it down. This gives health services more breathing space to cope with the numbers, and also gives time for more people to get vaccinated. The only way the virus can spread is through the interaction of people - decrease the amount of interaction between people and you decrease the ability of the virus to spread.

In other words, in pleb speak, the spread is delayed.
The ability of the virus to spread has nothing to do with it.
It simply can't go anywhere if there are no people around. But that does not mean it dissapears completely.

 

[daveza]

This is very unusual for the flu.

Nine congregants die as Covid-19 sweeps through Vredendal church

Nine people who form part of a small church in Vredendal, in the Western Cape, have succumbed to Covid-19 complications over the past two weeks.

www.timeslive.co.za

 

[pinball wizard]

This is very unusual for the flu.

Nine congregants die as Covid-19 sweeps through Vredendal church

Nine people who form part of a small church in Vredendal, in the Western Cape, have succumbed to Covid-19 complications over the past two weeks.

www.timeslive.co.za

What flu? The article seems to mention covid?

 

[daveza]

What flu? The article seems to mention covid?

 

[chrisc]

What flu? The article seems to mention covid?

They all looked in the picture of health. One leg, no teeth...

 

[Paulsie]

So long as only he has to live, or not, with the consequences of his assessment, and not affect anybody else.

Sorry Geoff.D, but as others said... If you need protection, protect yourself. If all these measures work so wonderfully, you will be OK. If not, what are we then talking about??

And if I must change my behaviour in order to protect you from covid, then I must also do so with flu, tb and other communicable diseases that might harm you.

 

[Geoff.D]

Sorry Geoff.D, but as others said... If you need protection, protect yourself. If all these measures work so wonderfully, you will be OK. If not, what are we then talking about??

And if I must change my behaviour in order to protect you from covid, then I must also do so with flu, tb and other communicable diseases that might harm you.

Of course it goes both ways. But it does not excuse being so stubborn about the whole issue.
I take full responsibility for my own protection.

 

[surface]

What flu? The article seems to mention covid?

Experts here have established that covid is flu. Are you new here?

 

[Geoff.D]

Experts here have established that covid is flu. Are you new here?

You have to admit that there are quite a few similarities.
I mean infection by both viruses can be prevented by avoiding indoor spaces, avoiding poorly ventilated spaces and AC environments, doing things outdoors, wearing masks and avoiding crowds.

 

[Lupus]

You have to admit that there are quite a few similarities.
I mean infection by both viruses can be prevented by avoiding indoor spaces, avoiding poorly ventilated spaces and AC environments, doing things outdoors, wearing masks and avoiding crowds.

A large portion of those that get it don't die. Symptoms are similar

 

[kfc4unme]

Does anyone know of a phone number one can phone if they received a SMS for vaccine appointment but cannot make it on the appointed date. The sms only contains the generic covid hotline number...

 

[Lupus]

Covid-19 immunity may persist for years, two new studies find | Life

New discoveries offer promising news: People who've been exposed to SARS-CoV-2 may have immunity lasting for years, and may not require a vaccine booster dose.

www.news24.com

Interesting learning new things everyday.

 

[Geoff.D]

Covid-19 immunity may persist for years, two new studies find | Life

New discoveries offer promising news: People who've been exposed to SARS-CoV-2 may have immunity lasting for years, and may not require a vaccine booster dose.

www.news24.com

Interesting learning new things everyday.

Here we go. The hype building up to try and justify not giving booster shots and even abandoning the vaccine programs.
And hiding it all in some more hard to believe (given the previous and current hype) so-called peer-reviewed studies.

 

[noxibox]

the type of people that go to night clubs are generally stupid.

Sorry you never get invited to go along.

This is very unusual for the flu.

Nine congregants die as Covid-19 sweeps through Vredendal church

Nine people who form part of a small church in Vredendal, in the Western Cape, have succumbed to Covid-19 complications over the past two weeks.

www.timeslive.co.za

Very unusual for a coronavirus too.

 

[noxibox]

Here we go. The hype building up to try and justify not giving booster shots and even abandoning the vaccine programs.
And hiding it all in some more hard to believe given the previous and current hype so called peer reviewed studies.

I'm surprised the news is willing to present the other side. Previously they simply ignored any evidence that immunity could last a long time.

 

[pinball wizard]

Here we go. The hype building up to try and justify not giving booster shots and even abandoning the vaccine programs.
And hiding it all in some more hard to believe given the previous and current hype so called peer reviewed studies.

Farksteaks old man, you're starting to lose the plot entirely here. Side-effect of that 'mectin you been sucking down?

 

[noxibox]

Lockdowns hardly seem to make a difference anywhere from where I'm standing.

Lockdown has become a meaningless term. It started out as meaning closing everything and confining people to their homes, but now an endless variety of things get called a lockdown. We even had people trying to pretend Sweden had a lockdown (when attempting to explain why their deaths were so much lower than predicted) or pointing fingers at Sweden for not having one (when seeking to justify why it is important to have one).

In South Africa you can legitimately ask whether closing everything served any useful purpose or how much difference it really made.