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Geoff.D

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Portfolio committee giving health a beating today.
Hammering her and SAHPRA on the IVM issue, the accuracy of the data relating deaths etc in public hospitals, the failure of the reg system etc.
What does the minister do?
She ducks and dives and passes the buck.
Then the EFF causes drama and gets themselves banned from the session.
No answer out of her about the IVM matter and most of the questions asked.
Absolute disgrace.
 
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Gordon_R

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Just heard that the small town of Kliprand (in the far north of the Western Cape), which until recently had escaped the pandemic, has now been put into total lockdown. Source in Afrikaans:
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The entire population of a small town near the border between the Western and Northern Cape is in isolation due to Covid-19.

At least 30 of the 205 residents of Kliprand contracted the virus.

The nearest hospital is in Vredendal where the Covid ward is already full.

This town was also recently hit hard by the pandemic.
 

Geoff.D

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Just heard that the small town of Kliprand (in the far north of the Western Cape), which until recently had escaped the pandemic, has now been put into total lockdown. Source in Afrikaans:
It should be pretty easy to establish how, when and who brought the virus to town.

It would make for a very interesting case study in track and tracing.
The virus must have thought it was in virus heaven! A completely exposed community to go wild in.
 

Gordon_R

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It should be pretty easy to establish how, when and who brought the virus to town.

It would make for a very interesting case study in track and tracing.
The virus must have thought it was in virus heaven! A completely exposed community to go wild in.

Somebody probably went to stock up in the town of Vredendal. It is very hard to prove, and not particularly helpful, due to asymptomatic cases.
 
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wtf did I just read? Pity I can't go past the first paragraph but the headline tells enough of the story.

 

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wtf did I just read? Pity I can't go past the first paragraph but the headline tells enough of the story.

Completely typical and expected from GP health.
 

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Carnage!! The trajectory of that graph is unreal?!

I suspect we doing a lot more testing this wave than the previous 2. At the height of the previous waves we hit national positivity rates of around 30%. I don't have a positivity rate by province from 2nd wave peaks.

Hospital admissions seem to peak around 5k-6k but Charlotte Maxeke wasn't closed during the first 2 waves.

What's truly terrifying to the number of new cases in the last 7 days. Must be close to 40k. A percentage of those are going to need a hospital bed in the near future.
 
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Wow!

I wonder when we will not be able to buy flip flops and underpants again?
Surprised it's not already been done, also drove passed a hospital didn't see queues of Ambulances? I mean if they are waiting 6 hours?
 

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Carnage!! The trajectory of that graph is unreal?!

I suspect we doing a lot more testing this wave than the previous 2. At the height of the previous waves we hit national positivity rates of around 30%. I don't have a positivity rate by province from 2nd wave peaks.

Hospital admissions seem to peak around 5k-6k but Charlotte Maxeke wasn't closed during the first 2 waves.

What's truly terrifying to the number of new cases in the last 7 days. Must be close to 40k. A percentage of those are going to need a hospital bed in the near future.
I've lost count of the amount of work colleagues, friends and family that are currently positive
 

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Scary thing is that Health care workers only got the J&J vac which is only about 60% effective against preventing illness.

Which basically means there's like a 40% chance that the person giving your vaccine is positive.
 

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Scary thing is that Health care workers only got the J&J vac which is only about 60% effective against preventing illness.

Which basically means there's like a 40% chance that the person giving your vaccine is positive.

That's not how vaccine effectiveness works.

 

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But the point stands that J&J Vaccine is not as effective as the others and our healthcare staff are predominantly vaccinated with this one, incl my wife

Heard last week from a work friend that two of her relatives who had J&J vaccine in March had contracted covid recently. Then in a weekly family zoom meeting last night, HCP specialist uncle working in JHB said 4 of his colleagues who had J&J had got CV19 and the status of those 4 , 1 had died , one in ICU, and two struggling.

His eldest working as oncologist in US and doing research into all CV 19 vaccines gave an great insight into how these all work and why the J&J is not as effective, (all above my head).. it has its uses but other things need to be studied ..

All I know is, if given the choice, it looks like the Pfizer one is the one I would ask for.

BTW, that meeting and feedback last night, changed my view of the J&J, now I am worried that wife and others are not as immune as I thought they would be.
 
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Leno

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But the point stands that J&J Vaccine is not as effective as the others and our healthcare staff are predominantly vaccinated with this one, incl my wife

Heard last week from a work friend that two of her relatives who had J&J vaccine in March had contracted covid recently. Then in a weekly family zoom meeting last night, HCP specialist uncle working in JHB said 4 of his colleagues who had J&J had got CV19 and the status of those 4 , 1 had died , one in ICU, and two struggling.

His eldest working as oncologist in US and doing research into all CV 19 vaccines gave an great insight into how these all work and why the J&J is not as effective, (all above my head).. it has its uses but other things need to be studied ..

All I know is, if given the choice, it looks like the Pfizer one is the one I would ask for.

BTW, that meeting and feedback last night, changed my view of the J&J, now I am worried that wife and others are not as immune as I thought they would be.
No hard data to quote, but the way I understand it, J&J is the same effectiveness as 1st dose of Pfizer so at the moment no one has been dosed with one that is more effective till the 2nd doses start rolling out.

Whats more interesting is what if the J&J is more effective for a future variant, Astrazeneca (which we pawned off to Africa who couldnt use most of them then expired) is showing quite high effectiveness for the Delta variant.
 
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