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An observation about TB from someone who had it and recovered from it. Me.

I was a healthy 43 year old. Middle income group. Ate well and only had a few beers every evening. No HIV no compromised immune system. No ****ing around with sickly people.

TB still got me. Explain that.
 
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WHO | Disseminated bacille Calmette–Guérin disease in HIV-infected South African infants

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www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

BCG vaccination in South African HIV-exposed infants – risks and benefits

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Don't believe (or misquote) everything you read on the internet: https://www.who.int/bulletin/archives/79(4)337.pdf?ua=1
Policies relating to BCG vaccination have not changed in South Africa since 1973, when this vaccination became compulsory by law.
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So it was optional before then, and I was vaccinated. QED...
 
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That's you and does not apply to the rest of the population. Do we know what % was vaccinated before 73?
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As I suggested earlier it does not really matter, and the whole TB discussion is a thread derail. Those at high risk generally have a compromised immune system. A vaccine only helps if you have antibodies and a functioning immune system. If you don't, then whether you were vaccinated may not make any difference to the outcome.
 
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So much for contact tracing!? Do they not keep a list of patients who were in the hospital? OK, it sounds like an outbreak. Actually a sh*tshow! Wonder if they used hand sanitiser?

P.S You made a duplicate post in the other thread.
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Yes, it's relevant for both Imho. Widest possible audience required
 
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That's you and does not apply to the rest of the population. Do we know what % was vaccinated before 73?
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A lot of us were. I was in Grade 1, Ventersdorp in a school driven program at age 6. which means at least back in 1955 and BTW I have more than one vaccination scar. I will have to ask my mom if she remembers why that happened. So it might very well have been non-compulsory but you bet that most parents back then would have probably agreed when asked. I would have to go and scratch to prove what those vaccinations were for though.
 
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Geoff.D said:
A lot of us were. I was in Grade 1, Ventersdorp in a school driven program at age 6. which means at least back in 1955 and BTW I have more than one vaccination scar. I will have to ask my mom if she remembers why that happened. So it might very well have been non-compulsory but you bet that most parents back then would have probably agreed when asked. I would have to go and scratch to prove what those vaccinations were for though.
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Round scar about the size of a small coin ?
vaxopedia.org

Recognizing Old Vaccine Scars

Do you know which vaccines caused those scars on your arm?
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Interesting study of coronavirus surviving in tap and waste water.
www.researchgate.net

(PDF) Survival of Coronaviruses in Water and Wastewater

PDF | The advent of severe acute respiratory syndrome and its potential environmental transmission indicates the need for more information on the... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate
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Geoff.D said:
A lot of us were. I was in Grade 1, Ventersdorp in a school driven program at age 6. which means at least back in 1955 and BTW I have more than one vaccination scar. I will have to ask my mom if she remembers why that happened. So it might very well have been non-compulsory but you bet that most parents back then would have probably agreed when asked. I would have to go and scratch to prove what those vaccinations were for though.
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The one I have on the top of my arm by my shoulder is a round indented one that's "pock marked" - I asked a doctor friend what it was for once, he said Smallpox prevention.

I've no idea if that has anything to do with the BCG vaccine or not. I don't have any other scars, but recall (with younger siblings) that a number of shots were given early in life.

@Gordon_R , I was born '62. What does yours look like?
 
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Indented? "Pock marked"?
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To my knowledge, it's the small pox vaccine that left a mark like that on some people.

My sons also seem to not react to vaccines, I remember some kids at school would get swelling, redness even sores.
 
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The death rate is increasing, but the infection rate seems pretty stable and low. If it increases to over 1% then we'll know that the theory was wrong
 
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So checking with my mom, she says one was for smallpox and the other for TB. But she reminded me that we were also given oral vaccines in the school programmes. On a regular basis.
 
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The death rate is increasing, but the infection rate seems pretty stable and low. If it increases to over 1% then we'll know that the theory was wrong
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It's naturally going to fluctuate, also with far too many unknowns at this "early" stage plus the wonky systems here, and where do you get 1% from?
If a personal theory please say that, else sounds like you're conveying some sort of fact. TIA
 
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