South African Covid-19 News and Discussions

[Sinbad]

The point I’m trying to make is that I am the most unpleasant, rude, ignorant, and all-around obnoxious arsehole that anyone could possibly have the misfortune to meet. I am dismissive of the virtuous, unaware of the beautiful, and uncomprehending in the face of the happy.

Andile? That you?

 

[pinball wizard]

The point I’m trying to make is that I am the most unpleasant, rude, ignorant, and all-around obnoxious arsehole that anyone could possibly have the misfortune to meet. I am dismissive of the virtuous, unaware of the beautiful, and uncomprehending in the face of the happy.

I'll challenge you for that title any day of the week.

 

[Geoff.D]

I have been in the hospital a few times - 3 to be exact spread over 40 years or so.
1. Appendix, Ontdekkers , 3 days. Day -2 doc looked in the ward and saw I was in bed just said I will see you tomorrow. Next day I met him on the steps in front of the hospital. He discharged me right there and then gone by 12:00.
2. The others were for hernia operations. Both miserable times, tried every trick in the book to get out of there. The care was dismal, the food terrible, The nurses pathetic. Discharged myself after 4 days in both cases. Basically just walked out.

 

[MiW]

Ahhh but you see, nobody is going to be convinced because you are talking bollocks largely (about the murder aspect), we know that government hospitals are piss poor and the level of care is atrocious at best, but you are outright claiming in your room alone that nurses murdered 4 people.. that is a stretch in the extreme.

So you think that I go out of hospital 18 months later, straight to the police , and tell them sometimes Nov-Dec (but I don't know the dates), 2 years ago, people which I don't know their names , got 'murdered' by nurses I don't know their names , because its obvious (for me) that was deliberate overdose/ignore/starvation.
Yeah right.

 

[ToxicBunny]

So you think that I go out of hospital 18 months later, straight to the police , and tell them sometimes Nov-Dec (but I don't know the dates), 2 years ago, people which I don't know their names , got 'murdered' by nurses I don't know their names , because its obvious (for me) that was deliberate overdose/ignore/starvation.
Yeah right.

Yes.. you should have, or at least raised it with hospital management....

 

[Brian_G]

@MiW , your English is pretty good (presume you're Spanish if you come from Argentina), but something about the way you told it did sound stretched. Maybe just the use of the word murder, although if it happened to me my thoughts would be similar.
Anyway you make good contributions, no history of this.

 

[theratman]

So you think that I go out of hospital 18 months later, straight to the police , and tell them sometimes Nov-Dec (but I don't know the dates), 2 years ago, people which I don't know their names , got 'murdered' by nurses I don't know their names , because its obvious (for me) that was deliberate overdose/ignore/starvation.
Yeah right.

You don't need to know their names to report a crime. Those deaths will be easy for the police to verify.

 

[Gordon_R]

More outbreaks in essential services facilities: https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/...maxeke-hospital-health-dept-confirms-20200423

"The Gauteng Department of Health can confirm that six pharmacy staff at Charlotte Maxeke Johannesburg Academic Hospital have tested positive for Covid-19," department spokesperson Kwara Kekana said on Thursday.

Two sources at the hospital, which has been a vital facility during the national lockdown, said it suffered the outbreak after a pharmacy intern tested positive late last week.

Other staff were urged to head to the hospital to be tested and it eventually emerged that pharmacists and assistant pharmacists also tested positive.

There are at least 50 staffers who are still awaiting results, the two sources added.

Pictures of an industrial cleaning process under way at the hospital on Monday were leaked to News24, confirming infection concerns at the facility.

Kekana also confirmed this, saying: "The process of tracing and testing close contacts has already begun, including the testing of staff, and the disinfecting of the area in the hospital where the team worked."

Protocol issues likely:

The sources also told News24 that pharmacists at the inpatients department received prescriptions directly from Covid-19 wards.

Not enough precautions were taken to protect pharmacists, one of them alleged.

They added that prescriptions came down from the wards "and they touch them and have runners in between and bring it to the pharmacy from the wards".

"From the time they knew about the virus, the pharmacy staff were speaking to managers about PPE (personal protective equipment) and obviously, wanted a procedure where they do not touch scripts. There was a suggestion for electronic scripts but managers were not supportive of that."

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Pay-walled but this paragraph sums up the ANC:

But we cannot survive Covid-19 intact as a sovereign country without private sector taxes to pay for the war on it. There’s little appreciation of that in the cabinet and unfathomable depths of ignorance deep in government departments. I saw a note this week from a property sector executive in Gauteng: “Weeks ago,” he wrote to a mutual friend, “the guys that do most of my project management were asked to assist the government in assembling the temp hospitals etc — they have attended numerous meetings and site visits — they say it’s like meeting with toddlers, no guidance, no plan, no clue and no execution — to date they haven’t received a follow-up plan to the first site meeting they had in late March.”[/b

PETER BRUCE: What if Cyril Ramaphosa’s silver bullet misses the mark?

As lockdown is his last medical shot, the financial package is also his final sovereign economic volley at the virus

www.businesslive.co.za

 

[MiW]

More outbreaks in essential services facilities: https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/...maxeke-hospital-health-dept-confirms-20200423




Protocol issues likely:

Damn that is bad news, the queues for medicine there are enormous. There is no way they can track the thousands of people which were there.

Not sure how does the pharmacy there is nowadays , but years ago, I remember a room with benches , hundreds of people packed , queuing mostly for their HIV and TB meds.

 

[alternate]

My biggest issue with this lock down is that it is meant to be so that they can prepare for the coming tide of sick people.
If they had actually done something, anything we would be seeing photos of hospital tents/beds and pats on backs.

There has been **** all done.

 

[pinball wizard]

So you think that I go out of hospital 18 months later, straight to the police , and tell them sometimes Nov-Dec (but I don't know the dates), 2 years ago, people which I don't know their names , got 'murdered' by nurses I don't know their names , because its obvious (for me) that was deliberate overdose/ignore/starvation.
Yeah right.

Maybe stop the disparaging comments regarding what you now admit was your addled brain's interpretation of things? Let it go man. Your point has been made, you made up a story and people aren't buying it.

 

[pinball wizard]

Damn that is bad news, the queues for medicine there are enormous. There is no way they can track the thousands of people which were there.

Not sure how does the pharmacy there is nowadays , but years ago, I remember a room with benches , hundreds of people packed , queuing mostly for their HIV and TB meds.

You should find the video that the MEC for health did on a walkabout there a week or so ago. The hospital is deserted. As in it was the MEC's entourage and that's it.

 

[saor]

We expecting an announcement tonight re. lockdown?

 

[Sinbad]

We expecting an announcement tonight re. lockdown?

Yes

 

[Brian_G]

What gets me is despite the endless incidents, the loss of life numbers don't really change in any significant way.
Don't want to start any rumours, but "there is smoke" here so does anyone have missing persons stats or know how to get that? (If their numbers are even believable.)

 

[Geoff.D]

Prof Karim was supposed to give a presentation on Tuesday, then postponed to Wednesday and then moved to today.
Now the Pres has taken the slot again? I would much rather listen to the Prof than the Pres.

 

[MiW]

Maybe stop the disparaging comments regarding what you now admit was your addled brain's interpretation of things? Let it go man. Your point has been made, you made up a story and people aren't buying it.

I don't understand your desire to poke at things you don't believe. Post counts? Just move on, no need to derail the thread any more. If you share your personal experiences on something(because you were asked) you don't need to provide proof to the forum police.

 

[joshuatree]

@MiW , your English is pretty good (presume you're Spanish if you come from Argentina), but something about the way you told it did sound stretched. Maybe just the use of the word murder, although if it happened to me my thoughts would be similar.
Anyway you make good contributions, no history of this.

Doctors and culpable homicide | Medical Academic

The recent judgment of the high court in Van Der Walt and the State is apparently being taken on appeal. In the judgment, the court hearing an appeal from the regional court confirmed the conviction and sentencing of the appellant, a doctor, for culpable homicide.

www.medicalacademic.co.za

Yes, people do die in hospital because of the lack of proper professional medical care that were supposed to be given, especially due to or by nursing staff.

Everybody knows what MiW is inherently saying, so I see no need to be trolling him.

Just quoted you Brian_G to more easily convey a point, without getting involved in a troll argument over semantics and the actual law.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Doctors and culpable homicide | Medical Academic

The recent judgment of the high court in Van Der Walt and the State is apparently being taken on appeal. In the judgment, the court hearing an appeal from the regional court confirmed the conviction and sentencing of the appellant, a doctor, for culpable homicide.

www.medicalacademic.co.za

Yes, people do die in hospital because of the lack of proper professional medical care that were supposed to be given, especially due to or by nursing staff.

Everybody knows what MiW is inherently saying, so I see no need to be trolling him.

Just quoted you Brian_G to more easily convey a point, without getting involved in a troll argument over semantics and the actual law.

Except he was straight up claiming that the nurses murdered patients.... for nothing more than being annoying and noisy and getting in the way of them resting.

There is a difference between a patient dying because the care was woeful and inadequate, and murdering a person because they were being annoying and stopping the nurse resting.