South African Covid-19 News and Discussions

[animal531]

I won't be able to provide a link as I read it quite some time ago, but there was a medical article stating that it is not the virus itself, that is dangerous, but rather your own immune system over reaction.

It is this overreaction that causes pneumonia, renail failure, heart failure and subsequent death. It also stated that people with flu vaccines are more prone to overreacting as their body is artificially programmed to mount a strong response.

THIS alo correlates with recent news, where smokers are likely suffer less severe outcome due to their immune not reacting as strongly (thanks to nicotine).

Slow and steady response is therefore preferred to a strong accute one. That's why different people react differently.

The cytokine storm only happens in a small percentage of the sick, and being a smoker doesn't affect your immune system positively.

For a greater majority being a smoker means that your lungs can no longer effectively clear fluid out of it, meaning that you're at a greater risk of dying.

 

[daveza]

Then they can practice their culture from 6 feet under.

Everything else stops for Rona, tradition/culture must as well.

 

[cn@]

Does someone have a link to an article or schedule that says that it is now at 11:00 or on Monday at 10:00???

 

[Paulsie]

This makes perfect sense to me. It explains why I had such a very bad experience when I had the one and only flu vaccine.
Would really appreciate it if you could find that article again.

Cytokine storm

Diseases such as covid-19 and influenza can be fatal due to an overreaction of the body's immune system called a cytokine storm. Cytokines are small proteins released by many different cells in the body, including those of the immune system where they coordinate the body's response against...

www.newscientist.com

Inside a Cytokine Storm: When Your Immune System is Too Strong | Pfizer

The vast majority of people who suffer severe complications from influenza are elderly or have compromised immune systems. In fact, almost 90% of people who die as a result of a flu infection in the United States are over 65, an age when the immune system’s ability to fight infection begins to...

www.breakthroughs.com

I am still looking for the vaccine link, but the above will explain nicely that's its not the virus, but ones immune system response to it

 

[ToxicBunny]

Stream just started...

Ebrahim Patel is a fscking retard... Can't even get the mask on his face right ffs.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Does someone have a link to an article or schedule that says that it is now at 11:00 or on Monday at 10:00???

It has just started.

 

[dualmeister]

That gonna show slides explaining stage 4

 

[Paulsie]

The cytokine storm only happens in a small percentage of the sick, and being a smoker doesn't affect your immune system positively.

I never said smoking is beneficial for you or your immune system. Only that nicotine might have an effect on the regulation of the immune system response (i.e.keeping it low, therefore indirectly protecting against the severity).

The fact is that scientists are scratching their heads, not knowing why certain individuals respond the way they do.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Crosses thumbs for alcohol

Well cele isn't around so you may have some chance.

 

[Brian_G]

For a greater majority being a smoker means that your lungs can no longer effectively clear fluid out of it, meaning that you're at a greater risk of dying.

Yep, more or less, was discussed before - what is believed is that smokers may well have an increased immunity, but once they have it if they are infected they then have a higher reaction risk.

 

[dualmeister]

And she brought up Apartheid....

 

[daveza]

Yup, 26 years later, all Jan's fault.

 

[MiW]

I never said smoking is beneficial for you or your immune system. Only that nicotine might have an effect on the regulation of the immune system response (i.e.keeping it low, therefore indirectly protecting against the severity).

The fact is that scientists are scratching their heads, not knowing why certain individuals respond the way they do.

But clinicians around the world are seeing evidence that suggests the virus also may be causing heart inflammation, acute kidney disease, neurological malfunction, blood clots, intestinal damage and liver problems. That development has complicated treatment for the most severe cases of covid-19, the illness caused by the virus, and makes the course of recovery less certain, they said.


The prevalence of these effects is too great to attribute them solely to the "cytokine storm,"

https://www.iol.co.za/news/science/coronavirus-destroys-lungs-but-doctors-are-finding-its-damage-elsewhere-47104703

the virus was found in kidney liver and so on , and the blood clots , sugesting it's not the cytokine storm

 

[ToxicBunny]

She is waffling now....

They also seem to think the country as a whole will willingly accept going back to level 5...

 

[daveza]

We so dodged the bullet with Cyril as pres and not this woman.

 

[daveza]

Fy, I'm done staying at home.

Now tell us who will look after the children when parents now go to work.

 

[Brian_G]

This woman should have a permanent fast-forward button attached to her speeeches.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Ffs they've decided to try compare this to the Spanish flu now... The fatality rate is nowhere near as bad for covid 19 ffs...

 

[daveza]

Red spots around the metropols.

Shocked.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Red spots around the metropols.

Shocked.

I don't think they've worked out why. Just see overall numbers....