South African graduates struggle to find jobs because they do not have the right skills

for some reason people think that the only way to prosperity is with a uni degree. A qualification can be a big part but you also need attitude and determination and the right qualification.

Unless you are MP a social worker degree is not going to make you rich.
 
Shaun Jacobs said:
South African graduates struggle to find jobs because they do not have the right skills

South Africa’s high unemployment is driven by a severe mismatch between graduate qualifications and labour market needs, worsened by poor education outcomes, underfunded and undersized universities.
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BS. There are so many internships and training that companies can train graduates using the skills development levy and it costs them nothing as otherwise they lose the skills development levy but still have to pay for it..

Have you over seen a Job Offered sign in a window in South Africa? No,
The job market is so bad right now that people with Computer Science degree complain on reddit of not getting jobs so doing grocery deliveries instead.
Even if you have Microsoft certs you can't get a job.

If you apply for job you don't even get a call back even if you have the skill.
 
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skimread said:
BS. There are so many internships and training that companies can train graduates using the skills development levy and it costs them nothing as otherwise they lose the skills development levy but still have to pay for it..

Have you over seen a Job Offered sign in a window in South Africa? No,
The job market is so bad right now that people with Computer Science degree complain on reddit of not getting jobs so doing grocery deliveries instead.
Even if you have Microsoft certs you can't get a job.

If you apply for job you don't even get a call back even if you have the skill.
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Problem is that computer science degrees don’t mean what they used to

I interviewed two candidates for a junior position last year. Both were “qualified”, one was even doing a masters, yet neither could outline the algorithm to calculate the average of a bunch of values in a table.

God weeped, and so did I. Then we hired an ex-colleague of mine.
 
I do not think I can take these kinds of articles seriously. It seems like these groups of people want to have their cake and eat it too. The same groups of people who say university education is worthless or there are only certain degrees that have value are now saying university investments need to increase, as well as the quality of tertiary education?? Some have advocated for shorter bootcamps/nano degrees. Like, make up your mind!

I think the best thing to say is, "no one really knows". Having the right skills or qualifications does not mean you will get opportunities. The basic law of supply and demand applies here.

The OECD also called for more teachers and university lecturers with real-world industry experience and greater use of internships to better prepare students for the demands of the job market.
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In my opinion this will not help. If the goal is to add more "skilled" workers, employers are simply going to inflate job requirements. On LinkedIn, I have seen a few junior/entry-level/grad jobs state "1 - 2 years of non-internship experience", or "No bootcamp certifications". A handful of listings have gone as far as to ask for a Masters degree as the minimum which is insanity for an entry-level job.
 
konfab said:
Problem is that computer science degrees don’t mean what they used to

I interviewed two candidates for a junior position last year. Both were “qualified”, one was even doing a masters, yet neither could outline the algorithm to calculate the average of a bunch of values in a table.

God weeped, and so did I. Then we hired an ex-colleague of mine.
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You can't even get interview. I don't mind failing at tests but people cannot get to that stage, they just get ghosted.
 
koeks525 said:
I do not think I can take these kinds of articles seriously. It seems like these groups of people want to have their cake and eat it too. The same groups of people who say university education is worthless or there are only certain degrees that have value are now saying university investments need to increase, as well as the quality of tertiary education?? Some have advocated for shorter bootcamps/nano degrees. Like, make up your mind!

I think the best thing to say is, "no one really knows". Having the right skills or qualifications does not mean you will get opportunities. The basic law of supply and demand applies here.



In my opinion this will not help. If the goal is to add more "skilled" workers, employers are simply going to inflate job requirements. On LinkedIn, I have seen a few junior/entry-level/grad jobs state "1 - 2 years of non-internship experience", or "No bootcamp certifications". A handful of listings have gone as far as to ask for a Masters degree as the minimum which is insanity for an entry-level job.
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Kooks didn't you have a head on collision?
 
konfab said:
Problem is that computer science degrees don’t mean what they used to

I interviewed two candidates for a junior position last year. Both were “qualified”, one was even doing a masters, yet neither could outline the algorithm to calculate the average of a bunch of values in a table.

God weeped, and so did I. Then we hired an ex-colleague of mine.
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My opinion is that there is far too much cheating and plagiarism in SA education today. There’s no way someone could have done the required practicals themselves and failed that.
 
GrootVoet said:
for some reason people think that the only way to prosperity is with a uni degree. A qualification can be a big part but you also need attitude and determination and the right qualification.

Unless you are MP a social worker degree is not going to make you rich.
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Many things you have to have a university qualification for: engineer, doctor etc.
 
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