South Africans should learn to speak each other's languages, says KZN artist

JuliusSeizure

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A country with 11 official languages, should've never been one country!

It was mentioned some time back that the ANC actually only wanted to make English the official language but the same businessmen that proposed for BEE to be established wanted 11. BEE was also never the brain-child of the ANC contrary to what some on Mybb would want you to believe.
 

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IMHO, the time to learn a language is in your early formative years. My mother is afrikaans but never spoke it to my brother and I, we also had a domestic worker that lived with us. Oh do I wish she spoke Zulu to me and mother speaking afrikaans and father speaking english. My mother couldn't speak english when she met my father but she learnt it which is probably why she never spoke afrikaans to us. You wouldn't be able to tell that she is afrikaans if you hear her speak.

I actually knew two guys (one from high school and another at Uni) who had both Afrikaans parents but only spoke English, the one from Uni said he failed Afrikaans or did very poorly in school if I recall. It does seem some urban Afrikaners don't want their kids to speak the language but probably not the majority.
 

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I wish I could speak more local languages, if only to catch out the folk at my local KFC; I'm convinced they're talking about me whenever I walk in.
 

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Eh, including Inglish in the "other languages"? If possible, let it be optional to learn a second language BUT pick the first one carefully. I am lucky enough to be able to speak passable Zulu but feel its usefulness is declining as urban people and young people generally speak, understand etc better English than my Zulu. There is a trend in some (bigger in KZN) municipalities etc to converse in Zulu but getting infrequent. Quite a few non-Zulu speakers in the "black" work force as well, can be slightly embarrassing.
I don't know about you and others but hearing what is being said is more important to me than actually speaking the language, so many people probably understand you when you speak English, less so for you when they speak their language.
 

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I wish I could speak more local languages, if only to catch out the folk at my local KFC; I'm convinced they're talking about me whenever I walk in.
Chances are they are talking about how handsome you are and about your gucci attire and your fancy car.
 

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Lol I watch A LOT anime and picked up a few words here and there in the process. japenese is quite pleasant to the ear, I wouldn't mind learning it. I think they teach katakana with word association, to make it easier to remember ?
Yup apparently that is the reason, I watched a lot of anime as well, but only knowing baaaaaaaka wasn't good enough, sometimes when watching it I can catch a few things I vaguely remember.
 

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I actually knew two guys (one from high school and another at Uni) who had both Afrikaans parents but only spoke English, the one from Uni said he failed Afrikaans or did very poorly in school if I recall. It does seem some urban Afrikaners don't want their kids to speak the language but probably not the majority.
I got 40% for afrikaans. :ROFL:
 

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This multiculturalism ship, together with speaking each other's languages while also singing songs of Ubuntu while holding hands, has long ago sailed.
It hasn't. You haven't tried. How many of the 11 official languages other than English and Afrikaans can you speak? How often do you interact with speakers of those languages?
We are just too different.

What is basic everyday manners for some, are completely foreign to others.

A country with 11 official languages, should've never been one country!
Again, English and in some cases, Afrikaans remain de facto higher priority official languages in official business and academia.
The experiment failed.
You don't have to learn a new language if you don't want to. You don't have to socialise with those you don't like. It's simple. Others have made success if it.
 

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This multiculturalism ship, together with speaking each other's languages while also singing songs of Ubuntu while holding hands, has long ago sailed.

We are just too different.

What is basic everyday manners for some, are completely foreign to others.

A country with 11 official languages, should've never been one country!

The experiment failed.
What's the problem with learning another language which is one of SA's 11 official languages to understand and talk to more of your countrymen?
 

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Reminds me of my german class

ich bin
du bist,
er, sie, es ist,
wer sind,
ihr seid,
sie Sei sind,

That shyte got drilled into us, along with this stupid song I still remember 30 years later.

Ein kleiner Matrose umsegelte die Welt.
Er liebte ein Mädchen, das hatte gar kein Geld.
Das Mädchen musste sterben, und wer war schuld daran?
Ein kleiner Matrose in seinem Liebeswahn.
Same here except for that song. We didn't sing in the class.
 

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Yup apparently that is the reason, I watched a lot of anime as well, but only knowing baaaaaaaka wasn't good enough, sometimes when watching it I can catch a few things I vaguely remember.
Well things I learned from japanese, is stupid things, when senpai, san , chan, kun, sama is appropriate, or stupid words like kuma, isekai, neko, kombini, chickin, omurice, hai, lie, konpiūta, pan, douma ect, kuso, yeah learned a japanese swear word as well lol. I generally picked up words when translating anime titles, do it enough times and it becomes easier. Watched over 400 anime titles, you bound to pick up words, here and there. I don't I know why, but I quite like japanese and the culture in general, extremely polite and modest people, a few unintentional closet racists however lets not forget their absolute perv nature, to extend that they have female only train carriages, and other weird shyte their into, like idols, lolis, hentai. The only thing I hate about the japanese, is mecha, I FKING hate mecha with a passion, I can't stand that shyte.
 

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Well things I learned from japanese, is stupid things, when senpai, san , chan, kun, sama is appropriate, or stupid words like kuma, isekai, neko, kombini, chickin, omurice, hai, lie, konpiūta, pan, douma ect, kuso, yeah learned a japanese swear word as well lol. I generally picked up words when translating anime titles, do it enough times and it becomes easier. Watched over 400 anime titles, you bound to pick up words, here and there. I don't I know why, but I quite like japanese and the culture in general, extremely polite and modest people, a few unintentional closet racists however lets not forget their absolute perv nature, to extend that they have female only train carriages, and other weird shyte their into, like idols, lolis, hentai. The only thing I hate about the japanese, is mecha, I FKING hate mecha with a passion, I can't stand that shyte.
Well they've become such, not so much during WW2, but it was an odd time. Watch the Wind Rises about the designer of the AM6 Zero, really odd to see Japan from another perspective during WW2.
I've watched a lot of anime as well, used to be involved a bit with events back in the early naughts, stopped watching as it got harder to find when animeworx, anime direct and such closed.
 

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I don't know about you and others but hearing what is being said is more important to me than actually speaking the language, so many people probably understand you when you speak English, less so for you when they speak their language.
Very important point. This is how we all learned it as a kid, by active listening all the time & then only practicing. Being adults, we just try to get into too much of grammar and crap. At least I always go with this approach and it retards the progress. I am pretty sure now that one just learns to listen a lot, take notes and practice (even by your own as getting other adult to practice with is really not going to happen, at least not free)

p.s. Of course, I understand that as a adult, no one is going to correct your language every flipping day (like our parents/family did) when we were growing up.

less so for you when they speak their language.
LOL - I tried speaking perfectly fluent (in my mind) and people were like 'WTAF'? I tried some elementary sentences in Afrikaans and isiZulu with native speakers of those languages. Now, I give people warning.
 

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Eh, including Inglish in the "other languages"? If possible, let it be optional to learn a second language BUT pick the first one carefully. I am lucky enough to be able to speak passable Zulu but feel its usefulness is declining as urban people and young people generally speak, understand etc better English than my Zulu. There is a trend in some (bigger in KZN) municipalities etc to converse in Zulu but getting infrequent. Quite a few non-Zulu speakers in the "black" work force as well, can be slightly embarrassing.
Get out of the major towns and metros and suddenly the picture changes.
 
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