South Africa's broadband penetration: playing catch-up with developed countries

Markd

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how about attaining some economies of scale by lowering the overall cost to access the internet, in terms of the Telkom line costs (seriously, different prices for different speeds over the same physical medium!??) and secondly the cost of bandwidth, which while looking more and more reasonable by the day, is still nowhere near international levels.
 

kaspaas

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There are often reports on the way the locals in Kenya/Tanzania are using cell phones for e-mail and web. Small farmers are staying in touch with markets this way.

PC penetration is not required.

It is the willingness of a community to use the tools available.

Cellphones with decent e-mail and web capabilities are very affordable - even on prepaid packages.

The low penetration of these phones into the market place is an indicator of the lack of eagerness to adopt the technologies of the day.

Why should people adopt the new technologies if they are not forced by bread and butter issues?

One can offer a horse water, you can even set an example of drinking water, but you can't make a horse drink water.
 

Markd

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"very affordable" is very relative, isnt it? Still, mobile penetration in South Africa is much MUCH higher than Internet penetration (and PC penetration for that matter), because of the low cost options available - which make this a realistic option for the masses, who are quite poor and likely wont be represented on these forums. And who cant afford an entire PC.

This doesnt mean that the vast, vast, ways of using the internet can now be carried out practically on a little mobile phone. Additionally, the cost of bandwidth on mobiles is absolutely ridiculous comparatively speaking - so TV on your mobile, or extensive Youtube surfing from your handheld are not going to be viable things to do for the majority of people in this country that cant afford an internet-friendly mobile contract.

Besides this, given the choice, many of us would rather use a PC than a mobile phone for the Internet. I've tried posting stuff on this forum using my not-so-cheap phone and its a pain in the rear compared to using my PC.

Mobile phones have very innovative uses (like paying for your groceries, getting cash from atm's etc.) and have allowed many people to get basic internet access - but for the full benefit of the internet to be realised, in my opinion, you need penetration that comes from devices other than mobiles...
 

RJ MWEB

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If we want this economy to grow we need more infrastructure investment. There is a pile of funds in the universal access fund. All that money should be used and invested in more infrastructure. That would be tax money hard at work. The networks then needs to be opened up and let competition drive uptake and prices down. Proper regulation on the investment will ensure a fair playing field for all. All we need is the vision from government and the political will. The rest will come from industry.
 

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Goldstuck advises more computer education and training, more subsidisation of computer purchases and an intensified focus on literacy in general.

Goldstuck further said that Government must become more aggressive in its stewarding of its 30% shareholding in Telkom to bring down the cost of landline usage, and hence enhance the potential of fixed line broadband.
We all know government is the problem here & they don't have the vision, nor the political will to change anything.

See .. ! http://mybroadband.co.za/news/general/15806-Communications-Department-disarray-Parliament.html
 
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MFour

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If we want this economy to grow we need more infrastructure investment. There is a pile of funds in the universal access fund. All that money should be used and invested in more infrastructure. That would be tax money hard at work. The networks then needs to be opened up and let competition drive uptake and prices down. Proper regulation on the investment will ensure a fair playing field for all. All we need is the vision from government and the political will. The rest will come from industry.
We can only dream of such things.
 

Kabal

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When pigs fly that is when all of this might happen.... To get more pc's in more household, you need inteligent people in the guavament... First EPIC fail.... Then you need guavament to see that their stake in Telkom is the handbrake on progress, wont happenso EPIC fail number 2. We will need LLU, wont happen EPIC Fail 3... I guess you can fill in the gaps to shorten this all.. Not while we have people who are leading this country , who where born before 1980 and who understand the needs and the uses of pc's and the internet will we ever move forward....

You president does not know his POP from his pophoel, so trying to explain anything to his is a waste, as with the rest of the clowns. Our future lies with the younger generation those who know a RAM from ROM , and that the internet is more than just porn.... Well so i have been told anyway....... There is also more to being uncapped than just torrents...... We need more people like the thinkers at mweb who brought us uncapped adsl, rather than the plonkers that told us it was "unsustainable"....

We cant change the way that people think about it all , so the only chance we will have is when we actually change those people....
 

The Trutherizer

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PC penetration is of course required, but SA's import regulations are such that normal people simply cannot afford PCs. Anything that costs $10 in the US does not cost R70 here like one would expect form the exchange rate, but rather closer to R100. That's x10 the actual price and it all goes to import duties and taxes. I really wish the poor people of SA would wake up and stop voting for the ANC because it is not SA, but the ANC who has a special arrangement with the other countries of the world - artificially keeping the cost of importing goods high to bring extra money not into the economy, it all goes to the state. And we know what they use money for. And its not like they are protecting an industry like they are doing with car manufacturers here - There are no PC component manufacturers here. It's shameful.

Lift these regulations and probably at least 20% more people would be able to afford PCs and ADSL there and then.
 
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