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South Africa's emergency power plan — including solar and short-term powerships

President Cyril Ramaphosa is expected to announce plans to remove barriers to private power generation investments and speed up government’s procurement of gas and renewable power, News24 reported.

Citing a leaked presentation shown to political parties on Monday, the report stated that the plan does not suspend legislation, impose a state of emergency, or a state of disaster.
 
Citing a leaked presentation shown to political parties on Monday, the report stated that the plan does not suspend legislation, impose a state of emergency, or a state of disaster.

Lol... as if they ever would have done it...
 
Yeah but it still requires environmental approval which is where it's stuck on now if I am not mistaken.

Pretty much...

Its the Authorisation from Transnet and the EIA that have them stumped at the moment.

Some of those suggestions will make a difference yes, but the one that may make the biggest short term difference is a suitable feed-in tarriff... it will financially incentivise us plebs to put solar on the roof.
 
Pretty much...

Its the Authorisation from Transnet and the EIA that have them stumped at the moment.

Some of those suggestions will make a difference yes, but the one that may make the biggest short term difference is a suitable feed-in tarriff... it will financially incentivise us plebs to put solar on the roof.
Agreed, the 1st step to solve SA`s energy crisis is to replace the socialistic rules with rules that make investing in a solar system attractive to households. Unfortunately, I doubt this will happen, since the the socialist nature of SA will never change, the haves will pay for the have-nots, even more so if you have a solar system.
 
Agreed, the 1st step to solve SA`s energy crisis is to replace the socialistic rules with rules that make investing in a solar system attractive to households. Unfortunately, I doubt this will happen, since the the socialist nature of SA will never change, the haves will pay for the have-nots, even more so if you have a solar system.

Unlike you, I honestly have no issue with subsidising the have-nots to some level but its a quid-pro-quo type of arrangement. They can get their free monthly allowance and other things, but then the onus is on them not to fscking destroy shyte when they get upset about some random crap... and the subsidisation needs to be well thought out and effective without inflating costs ridiculously.
 
Unlike you, I honestly have no issue with subsidising the have-nots to some level but its a quid-pro-quo type of arrangement. They can get their free monthly allowance and other things, but then the onus is on them not to fscking destroy shyte when they get upset about some random crap... and the subsidisation needs to be well thought out and effective without inflating costs ridiculously.
I actually also do not mind paying something to help the poor, as long as it is not forced and is not too much. The problem I have with it is that it is not sustainable. SA is now in the situation where the cost of living so high that a lower middle class house is worse off than an indigent house. The lower middle class house is paying higher tariffs so that the indigent house gets free and cheap services. Also, the "haves" class is shrinking and the indigent and freeloader/thief classes is increasing in size, resulting in the household bills of non-indigent houses going into hyper-inflation.
 
Pretty much...

Its the Authorisation from Transnet and the EIA that have them stumped at the moment.

Some of those suggestions will make a difference yes, but the one that may make the biggest short term difference is a suitable feed-in tarriff... it will financially incentivise us plebs to put solar on the roof.
So that's what I am waiting to see as well. Actually holding off on an assessment until it's clear if there's gonna be any subsidy which then may affect the extent to which I go solar.
 
Some of those suggestions will make a difference yes, but the one that may make the biggest short term difference is a suitable feed-in tarriff... it will financially incentivise us plebs to put solar on the roof.

Agreed. If there was an attractive option to feed into the grid and get something back for it; I'd happily double my current solar array and change the inverter to one that will allow feed-in.
 
So that's what I am waiting to see as well. Actually holding off on an assessment until it's clear if there's gonna be any subsidy which then may affect the extent to which I go solar.

Yeah, if there is a subsidy/feed-in incentive I may accelerate my plans to go solar and also ramp up the scale of the solar installation somewhat to try reap some form of accelerated ROI.
 
So that's what I am waiting to see as well. Actually holding off on an assessment until it's clear if there's gonna be any subsidy which then may affect the extent to which I go solar.

But is it even on the cards to allow us to feed-in to the grid?
 
So that's what I am waiting to see as well. Actually holding off on an assessment until it's clear if there's gonna be any subsidy which then may affect the extent to which I go solar.
They try to hide it, but solar systems in a socialist country are just expensive "tax me more" signs. If your system is grid tied you will definitely be paying more than you should. Off-grid is the only option, but I fear they will go after off-grid houses in another way, like CPT now not allowing houses to not have a connection.
 
But is it even on the cards to allow us to feed-in to the grid?

From a technical perspective that isn't difficult to achieve, just allow the digital meters to run backwards (I believe analog meters don't restrict running backwards, but if so then replace analog with digital). The issue is the loss of income. I'm assuming frequency synchronization isn't an issue since household inverters synchronize with the grid when plugged in to draw power from the grid.
 
100%... CoCT have the facility, so does eThekwini from what I remember but both tariffs are shockingly low.

Ah right. CoJ doesn't offer anything like this. But I suspect they might at some point in the future.
 
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