South Africa's high petrol price caused by RAF inefficiency

Lupus said:
Nooo really... 3rd party insurance with a medical liability like in the past should be for every driver.
Relying on the government well as we've seen
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With heavy penalties if caught without at least 3rd party insurance. In many countries with compulsory insurance the penalties can be as severe as jail time, confiscating and crushing of your vehicle and losing your license.
 
bwana said:
Just stop the gravy train and make 3rd party insurance mandatory...
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I remember when we had 3rd party insurance. You had a second disc on the windscreen with the year date big in red readable from a long distance away. I think it was renewed every September.

We were extremely happy when it was incorporated into the fuel cost sometime in the 1980's as it meant those who drove more paid more insurance instead of a fixed yearly amount.

It worked very well until the crooks got into the game.
 
deweyzeph said:
With heavy penalties if caught without at least 3rd party insurance. In many countries with compulsory insurance the penalties can be as severe as jail time, confiscating and crushing of your vehicle and losing your license.
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Meanwhile in SA, the murder capital of the world, what is the penalty for murder again?
 
Cosmik Debris said:
I remember when we had 3rd party insurance. You had a second disc on the windscreen with the year date big in red readable from a long distance away. I think it was renewed every September.

We were extremely happy when it was incorporated into the fuel cost sometime in the 1980's as it meant those who drove more paid more insurance instead of a fixed yearly amount.

It worked very well until the crooks got into the game.
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It worked when one taxi didn't carry 30 people. And all would need reimbursements for crashes. And similar situations, with many people being carried by few, usually poorly driven and often poorly maintained vehicles.
 
Mirai said:
It worked when one taxi didn't carry 30 people. And all would need reimbursements for crashes. And similar situations, with many people being carried by few, usually poorly driven and often poorly maintained vehicles.
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Yes in those days there was no such thing as a "hoenderhok" on the roads
 
PaulMurkin said:
Yes in those days there was no such thing as a "hoenderhok" on the roads
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Essentially you have fewer people working in high pay, productive jobs. Unemployment is higher and many of the jobs are low wage, but whether a low wage or unemployed employee crashes or a middle class person crashes, similar expenses may be required. Fewer people have to bear the burden. So things suck more. Despite that the ruling elites still blame the middle class for all the problems they've caused themselves.
 
Corelli said:
"The RAF directive, issued on 12 August 2022 by the RAF’s acting chief claims officer, instructed RAF employees not to pay claimants if their medical aid scheme had already paid for their medical expenses arising from a road accident."

"R8bn claim backlog: RAF boss wants lump sums, payouts for richer people scrapped"

"In 2021, the RAF paid R6,509,622 to a child who was hit by a swerving taxi. This amount covered general damages, loss of earnings, future medical treatments and hospital or nursing home accommodation, plus the setting up and administration of a trust for the child."

For me what take the cake is future loss of earnings.
ie Unable to go work on yachts abroad, a future nurse and her earnings, unable to compete in the open labour market,

And then there are the lawyers

"RAF claimant received R10 400, while attorneys got paid R241 000"

"Eastern Cape lawyer arrested for not paying client RAF money. Lawyer got R500k and claimant R0k"

So the RAF collects say R43 billion, R26 billion goes to claimants and about R10.6 billion goes to their attorneys.
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Maybe that should be regulated better?
 
neoprema said:
Pillaging the RAF is the root cause, not what the RAF is/was.
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The other thing is education.

There is a video you can find of 1900s New York with early cars, horse drawn wagons, trams and pedestrians using the wide streets of the era, all at the same time. It looks like chaos but it works.

When you drive through a suburb like Woodstock or Observatory you see the same thing. Even the wagons at times. Pedestrians crossing the street, not at crossings or robots but willy nilly everywhere.
You have idiots who use their hazards to stop at any place on a street, eg in the middle of the road, to do I don't know what. Maybe wait for their girlfriend they're cheating their wife with, who knows.

It's all a clown show.

Furthermore as most people don't own or drive cars, they don't know how poor the visibility is from a car. They will approach you from your blind spot to cross in front of you, so if you start from a green robot you could easily knock someone down. It's all clown pedestrians on the streets. They dart at the last second as your light changes green, these fools want to cross the street then and they dart from behind other cars so you often don't see them if you're not paying extreme attention and looking out for careless idiots.

Go to an European town and you'll see people cross only at crossings, unless it's a quiet backstreet somewhere.
 
Cosmik Debris said:
I remember when we had 3rd party insurance. You had a second disc on the windscreen with the year date big in red readable from a long distance away. I think it was renewed every September.

We were extremely happy when it was incorporated into the fuel cost sometime in the 1980's as it meant those who drove more paid more insurance instead of a fixed yearly amount.

It worked very well until the crooks got into the game.
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so SA had mandatory insurance and it wasn't all corrupt and backwards like it is now,

and here I was thinking it never existed before.
 
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