SpaceX must have 30% black ownership to launch Starlink in South Africa – ICASA

mypetcow

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dont worry, plenty of people will just plonk dishes on top of their houses without caring one little bit
what are they gonna do? drive around arresting everybody with a satellite dish?

look at etolls how that work out?
It won't be as easy as setting up shop in Botswana to circumvent this for instance. If Starlink were not to have ICASA approval nobody would not be able to legally import any Starlink devices into the country let alone be allowed to legally use them.

Unfortunately a handful of private people prepared to not declare them at the border does not scale with something like this.
 

Fulcrum29

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Seriously, what has ICASA ever done for South Africa but protect Telkom (when it was a monopoly) and the mobile providers (cartel)?

Im so annoyed. This is why we cant have nice things.

ICASA is carrying through with their state mandate, so are every other state organ and institution. Big businesses are willing to comply.

Nobody here knows where SpaceX is standing on this mandate, they may very well establish a SA trading company here which will comply. In this case there will be nothing much about this thread.

As long as these regulations are supported and unchallenged it will continue.
 

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South Africa is insignificant when it comes to global economic impact, so I wouldn't be surprised if they otherwise just give us a pass. It's an interesting one as Starlink's own equipment is all technically well outside SA so yes it's signals may pass through our space, but so do so many other signals. I suppose though the devices we buy are broadcasting/radio equipment and that requires ICASA spectrum licensing and approval just like any other radio/remote control devices... So it will boil down to us only being able to import/use ICASA licensed equipment (as has always been the case). We would take the risk of importing it and using it. The license granted to Starlink though means SA can control them like any other broadcaster...
 

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Seriously, what has ICASA ever done for South Africa but protect Telkom (when it was a monopoly) and the mobile providers (cartel)?

Im so annoyed. This is why we cant have nice things.
Actually, Telkom did pretty good without any help from ICASA to protect their Monopoly all by themselves.

ICASA played an insignificant to non-existent role.
 

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Radical idea: Exchange all black people from the USA with all the white people from RSA. Win-win, no?
You know there are under 5 million whites in SA right? With around 40 million blacks in America?
 

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Interesting.

Some of our clients have started up overseas entities in order to try and avoid this requirement, so this will not sit too well with them.

Also received confirmation from 4 of our clients in the past week that they will be closing up shop if this 30% requirement is ever enforced on them - the shareholders have indicated that if they are forced to sell, they are selling 100% or nothing, but that will never happen, so winding-down procedures are being reviewed as we speak.
Say the market is viable then SpaceX will comply by registering a SA entity. The problem that remains is that the 30% threshold will increase in the time to come.

The SA government sees this as SpaceX’s challenge and in empowering the previously disadvantaged.

Also, I haven’t seen the new ICASA regulations being challenged, it seemed more supported.
Something about these two statements don't gel with each other. I smell foul. Like EWOC is "supported" while there are 100k submissions against it laying in a box.
 

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Unfortunately a handful of private people prepared to not declare them at the border does not scale with something like this.
"illegal" cigarettes get into the country, so do "illegal" cars, and half of Zim lives here already.
our borders are porous, so if there is a demand, there will be a way.

especially if Starlink becomes heavily taxed/censored in SA due to the ANC greed.
 

Geoff.D

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Guess we won't see Starlink locally then, which is ironic since South Africa is one of the countries where this has the potential for the greatest impact.
everywhere with large tracks of underserved areas could benefit.
 

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Something about these two statements don't gel with each other. I smell foul. Like EWOC is "supported" while there are 100k submissions against it laying in a box.

Ellipsis tracked the process,

 

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But the Banana's have to be 30% black

/qualifies

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Swa

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"illegal" cigarettes get into the country, so do "illegal" cars, and half of Zim lives here already.
our borders are porous, so if there is a demand, there will be a way.

especially if Starlink becomes heavily taxed/censored in SA due to the ANC greed.
Unfortunately those don't need continued support. Starlink as a company won't function outside the law as that would risk their own U.S. operating license. Their satellites simply won't provide the service when over SA airspace.
 
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