Spar's free range BULL5HIT

FNfal

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I don't think SPAR has any idea that is why there is no reply or they have some thing to hide .I suspect the latter.
 

Nick333

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I don't think SPAR has any idea that is why there is no reply or they have some thing to hide .I suspect the latter.
Bit of both more than likely if someone at SPAR head office watches Carte Blanche. There is no standard definition to conform to in this country.

@OP email Carte Blanche, maybe they'll do a follow up. There is no way to get them to fess up because legally they have nothing to fess up to as long as they are sourcing the products as free range on good faith which I'm sure they are.
 

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Advertising Standards Authority is who to complain to.

An advertiser must be able to Justify a term like "Free Range" when making that as a claim in an advert.

If they cannot justify the claim they will be forced to pull the adverts.
 

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Is there even a standardised definition of "free range" in South Africa?
 

BayCityRoller

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....Spar is still remaining silent. Anyone suggest how I can get them to fess-up
Haven't had a look @ what you wrote on HelloPeter, but if you send the details to :

Spar - International Headquarters in Holland

http://www.spar-international.com/contact-us
If your questions are not answered in the FAQ's please feel free to send an email to info@spar-international.com.
Contact Information

SPAR International
Rokin 99-101
1012 KM Amsterdam
The Netherlands

Telephone: +31 20 626 6749
Fax: +31 20 627 5196
At the same time Cc their UK Office :

Call us: 0208 426 3690 direct dial to Consumer Services (Mon-Fri 9am – 3pm)

For urgent enquiries please call our main switchboard on 0208 426 3700.

Email us:
Customer.relations@spar.co.uk
Then, if you feel inclined to Cc every major European office & Australia, you shd. be able to pick-up all their E-mail addresses here:


I'M QUITE SURE THEY'LL THEN BE HEARING FROM THEIR OVERSEAS OFFICES, AND THEY'LL BE FORCED TO GIVE YOU SOME ANSWERS !

(Wouldn't waste the time sending anything to Japan, as they have rather poor animal-rights records - whaling in the Southern oceans etc.)
 

Nick333

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Advertising Standards Authority is who to complain to.

An advertiser must be able to Justify a term like "Free Range" when making that as a claim in an advert.

If they cannot justify the claim they will be forced to pull the adverts.
The point is there is no standard. What standard would ASA use to decide if the claim is justified. As long as they're allowed to move it could be argued that that's free range compared to the usual free range methods.
 

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Look a the brand on the box and Google it?

That will most likely give you an address and telephone number and you can investigate further?
 

Billy

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The point is there is no standard. What standard would ASA use to decide if the claim is justified. As long as they're allowed to move it could be argued that that's free range compared to the usual free range methods.
From what I have seen in the past it would be up to SPAR to define their definition of Free Range which would then be compared to accepted definitions, not necessarily from SA.

Put in the complaint and see what happens.

Here is as good a South African definition that you are likely to get.

http://www.freerangechickens.co.za/photos/
 
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Lounger

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Advertising Standards Authority is who to complain to.

An advertiser must be able to Justify a term like "Free Range" when making that as a claim in an advert.

If they cannot justify the claim they will be forced to pull the adverts.
They will bow to the industry's definition. For example 100% fruit juice has flavourings in it.
 

HavocXphere

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Anyone suggest how I can get them to fess-up?
Do you have any evidence of actual wrong doing? Them not replying isn't exactly an admission of guilt. Not that I'm sure what exactly they'd be guilty of since as you pointed out the term is unregulated.

I you actually want to know the info ask them who supplies their FR chickens, go to the farm and ask for a tour.
 

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Our retailers can source goods from local traders. -spar

Post a pic of the egg packaging, so we can see what you mean.

Our olives, wines, jams, beskuits, free range eggs, cold meats in Stellenbosch 5 star Spars are sourced from local surrounding farmers.

If you want to visit the poultry farm before you eat their free range eggs, why don't you visit a farm close by and if you are happy that the chickens are happy, you can you stick to your brand of free range eggs.

I drink Darling milk, and I know the dairy and know who the farmers that produce milk are, I eat free range chicken and eggs and cured meats from local Stellenbosch farmers, I eat strawberries from Mooiplaas and so on.
All stocked by my local Spar in Die Boord, Stellenbosch, who has a friendly and approachable owner and manager.

Some links from my area:
http://www.foodshed.co.za/dairy-eggs/chicken-eggs
http://www.eggberteggs.co.za/freerange.html
http://www.homegrown-online.co.za/
http://www.stellenboschconnect.co.za/sweetwell
http://www.urbansprout.co.za/is_woolworths_just_another_bad_egg

Getting carried away with this one: :D
http://www.wildpeacock.co.za/downloads/2011_product_list.pdf

(even better: get yourself an egg-laying hen, she's not a noisy bird, eats a simple and cheap diet and will provide you with eggs you personally know are free-range)
 

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Good luck with this man. Great to see someone cares enough about it to question the label, and to investigate. Its so sad what happens on these factory farms these days =(
 

Moklet Kcuf

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Thanks for the opinions folks. Contacting PETA and Spar's international branches sounds like a good idea.

Here's a photo of the packaging i refer to.



From the research I've done, it seems a lot of private companies in SA are taking advantage of the lack of regulation. An example being Fair Cape Free Range™ Their dairy cows are far from free-range and for anyone who takes their labelling literally are hoodwinked.

Maybe Spar is supplying true free range eggs, but the fact that there is no open response from them, it does raise suspicion.

Edit: for anyone curious about the illegible badge symbol in the photo, it says "double money back,quality guaranteed". If only it said "Free Range guaranteed"
 
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Lounger

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Our retailers can source goods from local traders. -spar

Post a pic of the egg packaging, so we can see what you mean.

Our olives, wines, jams, beskuits, free range eggs, cold meats in Stellenbosch 5 star Spars are sourced from local surrounding farmers.

If you want to visit the poultry farm before you eat their free range eggs, why don't you visit a farm close by and if you are happy that the chickens are happy, you can you stick to your brand of free range eggs.

I drink Darling milk, and I know the dairy and know who the farmers that produce milk are, I eat free range chicken and eggs and cured meats from local Stellenbosch farmers, I eat strawberries from Mooiplaas and so on.
All stocked by my local Spar in Die Boord, Stellenbosch, who has a friendly and approachable owner and manager.

Some links from my area:
http://www.foodshed.co.za/dairy-eggs/chicken-eggs
http://www.eggberteggs.co.za/freerange.html
http://www.homegrown-online.co.za/
http://www.stellenboschconnect.co.za/sweetwell
http://www.urbansprout.co.za/is_woolworths_just_another_bad_egg

Getting carried away with this one: :D
http://www.wildpeacock.co.za/downloads/2011_product_list.pdf

(even better: get yourself an egg-laying hen, she's not a noisy bird, eats a simple and cheap diet and will provide you with eggs you personally know are free-range)
I tried to like Darling milk, but found it weak. A quick check tells me it is about 1/2 the fat of Woolworths Ayshire.
 
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