Springbok End of Year Tour - 2013...

[DJ...]

I don't know why Jano Vermaak didn't get a run today. He deserved it, and probably needed it too...

 

[DJ...]

The ref was also a bit blind to 3 penalties we could have had.

Just three? Wayne Barnes seemed to have his eyes closed at the breakdown, especially to the frogs being off their feet and sealing the ball off. And one or two penalties that were blown against us should have gone the other way because of this...

 

[Hemi300c]

I must mention once again that Strauss had a bit of a shocker once he got on the pitch. Second in a row and not like him at all. I honestly think he's carrying some sort of niggle as he appears to be afraid to take running ball into contact at the moment...

The side we finished with should have been the side we started with.

Strauss isn't his best but "Colisi" is somebody to watch.

 

[DJ...]

The side we finished with should have been the side we started with.

Strauss isn't his best but "Colisi" is somebody to watch.

Kolisi has been very impressive when he's come on, agreed. He has a lot of core strength by the looks of things which makes him really dangerous in the tackle and breakdown area, as the frogs found out today...

 

[nfbs]

Heyneke doesn't see it. PDiv didn't see it. John Plumtree didn't see it. Jake White didn't see it. And Mark Anscombe doesn't see it.

how many of those coaches selected him to start against NZ when he was available? He has always been selected as reserve for his versatility since he can play 9, 10,15. Then if someone gets injured or go back to their club e.g. Hougaard or du Preez then Pienaar gets a start like today.

It's all good and well that you select him against weakened Northern Hemisphere teams. France finished last in this years six nations. But if push comes to shove you would be crazy to start him against a team that matches yours especially NZ.

 

[DJ...]

So Jake White was smoking crack in 2007, and every other provincial and national coach since then...?

 

[Albereth]

I don't know why Jano Vermaak didn't get a run today. He deserved it, and probably needed it too...

Deserved it? Based on what? His performance in the last 2 games?

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Let's be fair - Louw's yellow was as soft as they get. I agree with what we discussed a few weeks ago, that decisions relating to cards need to be reviewed by the TV ref. His hand to the face was a nothing-incident, and the frogs got away with a helluva lot of ill-discipline themselves. Dusatoire's punch in the ruck comes to mind.

I agree, and Habana's milking of that bump was also lame and not card-worthy in my opinion. However, we've sort of made ourselves a target through the way we play. The refs are gonna have their eye on you if you get carded so much. And it's just weak discipline. Yes, the frog slapped de Villiers' head first, but a hand to the face is a lot more serious, and rightly so, imo.

Just three? Wayne Barnes seemed to have his eyes closed at the breakdown, especially to the frogs being off their feet and sealing the ball off. And one or two penalties that were blown against us should have gone the other way because of this...

To be fair, he missed some of our infringements, too. Couple of blatant offside situations comes to mind. SA refs are really the best in the world, at the moment.

 

[nfbs]

So Jake White was smoking crack in 2007, and every other provincial and national coach since then...?

Your memory seems bad those national coaches played him for 5 minutes off the bench at the end of the match to give FdP a break. He was selected as a bench player to cover 9,10,15 Even his provincial coaches didn't play Pienaar at 9 like he wanted and he himself said that is the reason he left the Sharks to play in Ireland.

 

[sand_man]

Louw's yellow was harsh.

Yes, a player isn't allowed to take the law into his own hands but if the ref is doing his job there is no need to. Barnes missed plenty off the ball s hit. A yellow for that push to the face was ridiculous and why didn't Barnes give the French lock a yellow for his part in the incident?

Did anyone watch Fiji vs Italy? I consider what Castrogiovanni did as retaliation worthy of a yellow card. He was so quick to jump in that he didn't give the Fijian player a chance to put the player done safely. He in fact made the incident worse.

http://youtu.be/Yq1fdqFCI-E

If the ref won't protect the players who will?

When the ref does nothing and the players do nothing you have Samoa vs SA 2011 RWC where our players constantly got hammered, in off the ball incidents.

The Scots did it against us at home in the July tests, bullied and infringed with impunity while the French ref looked the other way.

 

[sand_man]

Those fields in the Northern Hemisphere should be banned. I am sure it's a tactic they use to take the powerful scrummaging of the South out.
Cr@py game but oh so glad we clapped the frogs. The ref was also a bit blind to 3 penalties we could have had.

I think we should schedule the July tests for February and have them all played at Hoffa Park Stadium...

 

[DJ...]

Your memory seems bad those national coaches played him for 5 minutes off the bench at the end of the match to give FdP a break. He was selected as a bench player to cover 9,10,15 Even his provincial coaches didn't play Pienaar at 9 like he wanted and he himself said that is the reason he left the Sharks to play in Ireland.

Wait a sec. You're saying that Pienaar was only ever played off the bench for 5 minutes until Meyer? Huh? And the fact that he was in the squad already invalidates your point. You're stating that he has a technical flaw in his game, so fundamental that it renders him pretty much ineffective.

I guess once you've got hate for a guy there's no going back. Even I'd give Morne Steyn the thumbs-up if he had a good game. I've done it before. Oh well...

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Absolute blinder from Ireland so far. But my god, Nigel Owens is having a shocker. He doesn't ping Ireland for ANYTHING. Offside repeatedly? No problem. Knock on? No problem. Obstruction? No problem! Terrible.

 

[DJ...]

Did Nigel Owens seriously just say "he can use his feet, it's a ruck" referring to Ireland interfering with NZ ball at the breakdown? Lol...

 

[Wall]

Come on Ireland

 

[undesign]

Two guesses for who scored lowest again...

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SpringboksintheUK/Boks-Coenies-flying-colours-20131124

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Jesus. Owens is fscking useless. He doesn't blow either of the 2 Irish tacklers that isn't releasing the player, but waits for the AB to come in so he can ping him.

 

[nfbs]

Two guesses for who scored lowest again...

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SpringboksintheUK/Boks-Coenies-flying-colours-20131124

There will be a lobby who consider this rating a tad generous

You don't say.

 

[DJ...]

The silence by the crowd at that last penalty kick was awesome. Ironically it probably put even more pressure on the kick...

 

[DJ...]

My god! What a farcical ending. Last penalty to NZ should have gone the other way. Poor Ireland. They only have themselves to blame though. How they must be kicking themselves for that last penalty miss...