Stage 2 load shedding to kick in from 14:00, and will last until Saturday - De Ruyter

[N@t3]

All of it?? How so?

yep stage 1, 2 and 3 we miss load shedding once it hits stage 4 then boom we have it, we in the Eastleigh area near the water department.

 

[Brian_G]

you definately aren't wrong, but i think he means rather loadshed consistently and increase maintenance (i.e less units will be running meaning a reduced availability thus constant loadshedding)

Sounds good. Then we have to look at how many are on the edge so how dangerous it may be to take more off-line. And the lack of skills and fair management, and the endless abuses which would possibly then escalate... so maybe not. But a good thing to debate, thanks.

 

[Moosedrool]

First load shedding since I installed these puppies:
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Can't wait to be load shed...

I wonder how long it'll be until Eskom feels the negative effect of inverter systems until they want to regulate the sales.

The issue with a inverter and battery system charging off the grid is on return of service it sucks up more demand. Borrowing more energy now for the future. If more homes have a setup like this the concept of load shedding can't even exists and the grid will have no choice but to collapse.

 

[The Darkness]

So you assume nothing else will break during those 6 months...forcing them to go up to other levels anyway?

How are people still not prepared for load shedding after 8 years??

It hasn't impacted me for years already.

Even if you're 100% off the grid, this gross negligence and frankly treasonous behavior from these negligent, incompetent idiots will have an impact on us all. Everything from general public health (compromised cold-chains) security, our economy and even global sentiment towards us is affected.
And yet, we all just roll over and go to Game to buy a cheap **** generator (making these treasonous criminals even more more money from the 60% they take from the fuel).
I stand by this: we need Stage 8+ loadshedding. We need to completely break this in order for everyone to take to the streets and demand change.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Even if you're 100% off the grid, this gross negligence and frankly treasonous behavior from these negligent, incompetent idiots will have an impact on us all. Everything from general public health (compromised cold-chains) security, our economy and even global sentiment towards us is affected.
And yet, we all just roll over and go to Game to buy a cheap **** generator (making these treasonous criminals even more more money from the 60% they take from the fuel).
I stand by this: we need Stage 8+ loadshedding. We need to completely break this in order for everyone to take to the streets and demand change.

Ok then....

 

[Brian_G]

I wonder how long it'll be until Eskom feels the negative effect of inverter systems until they want to regulate the sales.

The issue with a inverter and battery system charging off the grid is on return of service it sucks up more demand. Borrowing more energy now for the future. If more homes have a setup like this the concept of load shedding can't even exists and the grid will have no choice but to collapse.

Problem is capital outlay, in our failing economy (let's face it, that's what it is) , few can afford to go off grid.

 

[pinball wizard]

I stand by this: we need Stage 8+ loadshedding. We need to completely break this in order for everyone to take to the streets and demand change.

This is the dumbest thing on the face of the earth.

If the system reaches total collapse in SA, all the taking to the streets and demanding will do ****all. Nothing will be rebuilt.

 

[RunningFromFat]

This is the dumbest thing on the face of the earth.

If the system reaches total collapse in SA, all the taking to the streets and demanding will do ****all. Nothing will be rebuilt.

He wants the economy to suffer even more and provoke more looting. SMH

 

[Vorastra]

We meet again, brothers and sisters.
Take a seat and bask in the glory of Eskom.

 

[RunningFromFat]

36 degree day + no fan whilst going to sleep is going to be a bit of a toughie.

 

[Brian_G]

I stand by this: we need Stage 8+ loadshedding. We need to completely break this in order for everyone to take to the streets and demand change.

Revolution is a lose-lose. Positive thinking got this country on track before, destruction isn't the way.

 

[mojoman]

36 degree day + no fan whilst going to sleep is going to be a bit of a toughie.

Best investment I made 2 years back was some cheap ass Goldair fan...that ran on Eskom (when it works) and 2x 6v rechargable batteries for the normal times (actually replaced the batteries last week for R150)! Only lasts about 4hrs on low but it keeps those bastard mozzies off you....And helps stops you sweating to death!

 

[MikeaMatrix]

Even if you're 100% off the grid, this gross negligence and frankly treasonous behavior from these negligent, incompetent idiots will have an impact on us all. Everything from general public health (compromised cold-chains) security, our economy and even global sentiment towards us is affected.
And yet, we all just roll over and go to Game to buy a cheap **** generator (making these treasonous criminals even more more money from the 60% they take from the fuel).
I stand by this: we need Stage 8+ loadshedding. We need to completely break this in order for everyone to take to the streets and demand change.

And then? Demand change and then what? In your mind what exactly is supposed to magically happen.

 

[The Darkness]

And then? Demand change and then what? In your mind what exactly is supposed to magically happen.

Well, demand change and get change? If IPP's were allowed to freely operate we'd not be in this mess. Swap Eskom for SAA and see the situation from there. Being passive about this situation has done ZERO to fix this issue.

 

[Brian_G]

Well, demand change and get change? If IPP's were allowed to freely operate we'd not be in this mess. Swap Eskom for SAA and see the situation from there. Being passive about this situation has done ZERO to fix this issue.

Some of that is at least happening now, but until the anc is weak enough (if ever) nobody else will get leverage. Not without blowing up much of what's left.

When the majority becomes interested, let's talk again.

 

[konfab]

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Reply : See post #30

You are actually wrong on this.

Eskom gets load shedding like this because their stations don't get the necessary time to do maintenance as there isn't enough capacity to provide power and do the maintenance, so they pick the easy option and simply run the stations until they break. Which can happen at any time and cause severe power failures.

The difficult option is to accept the reality that Eskom cannot perform its job, and therefore you do the correct thing and lower demand until you are at a point where you can do the maintenance of their generators when it needs to happen and be prepared for some level of unexpected breakdowns.

Chances are, that with a long term plan of stage 1 load shedding, they would be able to get the required maintenance done.

 

[Brian_G]

You are actually wrong on this.

Eskom gets load shedding like this because their stations don't get the necessary time to do maintenance as there isn't enough capacity to provide power and do the maintenance, so they pick the easy option and simply run the stations until they break. Which can happen at any time and cause severe power failures.

The difficult option is to accept the reality that Eskom cannot perform its job, and therefore you do the correct thing and lower demand until you are at a point where you can do the maintenance of their generators when it needs to happen and be prepared for some level of unexpected breakdowns.

Chances are, that with a long term plan of stage 1 load shedding, they would be able to get the required maintenance done.

Not really that simple - it's a catch 22 situation regarding how much can potentially be done at once, and still too much abuse everywhere to gain control over.

 

[MikeaMatrix]

Well, demand change and get change? If IPP's were allowed to freely operate we'd not be in this mess. Swap Eskom for SAA and see the situation from there. Being passive about this situation has done ZERO to fix this issue.

Just demanding change. Does not bring change. You want to change how the game is played? You change the game itself, not by telling players to play the game differently.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

This:

Makgoba: Restoring the plant and dealing with load shedding requires that all roleplayers are in sync. Two or three years ago, Eskom indicated additional capacity is needed. Three years since the call has been made - there has been no new capacity. The delays and policy misalignment all impacts the functioning of Eskom.

 

[SubtleBeast]

Probably, as they were saying the coal isn't great on a lot of the ones coming in via truck and various sources. Wrong coal can lead to overally hot.

They still using Gupta-coal?
From what's that mine called again?