Static IP service

podo

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Hi folks,

Reading and participating in several threads lately I have noticed numerous cases where one might need a static IP for one's ADSL connection.

Currently, in line with most international standards, surprisingly, Telkom are not leasing static IP addresses as a standard feature of the service. However, they are also not providing the opportunity to lease a permanent IP address to those users that do need it. This must change.

With the permission of the forum participants, I would like to try to lobby with Telkom on providing such a service. This will not be easy and we will probably not even receive a reply, but I feel it's worth trying anyway.

We can not expect such a service to be free, this is not the case anywhere in the world. In the UK, most "business use" ADSL packages include a permanent IP address or even a netblock. These packages are usually more expensive then home ADSL access though.

I feel that a monthly lease fee of R50 (including VAT) would be a reasonable price to lease a static IP. Obviously, for that amount, custom reverse DNS for the IP should also be offered as a service, to allow for real e-mail processing via the connection, sending and receiving.

Obviously, we would need to make some consessions. It's very well known that Telkom do not want businesses to move away from Diginet, as this would do a lot of harm to their profit margin and they are extremely greedy. An ADSL service with static IPs would intice some businesses to move, allowing them to host their web server on ADSL instead of Diginet.

If we are to stand any change at getting this, we would have to consent to Telkom filtering port 80 to the static IP machines. This means, no web servers on your ADSL line (not on port 80 anyway)

They would have to allow us to have open SMTP and SSH ports though. If we can't at least have full access to use the line for remote access and mail, I can't see what we would do with the static IPs.

Anyone in favour of this proposal should respond immediately. I think the only way to get them to notice this would be for us to co-ordinate a date upon which we can all send (independently written) e-mails to the Telkom ISP and Telkom themselves. Telkom do not read on-lin pettitions, so I'm not even going to go there.

Well placed, co-ordinated e-mailing should get somebody's attention, even if just to plant the idea with them.

Any takers?

Willie Viljoen
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grubman

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My, my, what a turn around ... from blasting forum members for suggesting a static IP to actually wanting to approach telkom to request that this facility be enabled. Not meant as a flame, just an observation.

I'm all for trying to get telkom to lease static IP's but I am against filtering port 80. I don't think *any* ports should be filtered or that the ADSL service be crippled in any way. In fact the diginet lines still have their place, for those companies who wish to ensure that they have a dedicated nn kbps channel. Telkom have overpriced this product and should really look at bringing this more in line with international trends rather than trying to protect it.
 

reech

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The idea of lobbying for a static ip is exellent podo - I think it's worth a try -personally I wouldn't run anything but a very low volume website or 'extranet' type scenario. My main uses for a static ip would be to run my own mail server with remote access - ala squirrelmail - and for the ability to have static vpn routes - however I'd be very much against port filtering in any shape or form - that said even if telkom did filter on port 80 you could still host your server on 8080 or another port.
 

BTTB

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I would be all for a Static IP service. Im tired of resetting my Mirc Connection. Its really a hassle. People wanting to send me important messages from our gaming clan often comment that Im not on the channel. Also downloads scheduled overnight sometimes are reset because of the Ip change. And I couldn't be bothered to complain to Telkom for the several hundred megs of downloads lost as who is listening. It seems I might have to istall a Download Manager again like the old days of 56k and ISDN. Who would of thought after getting ADSL you would need a download manager because of Ip Resets, capping and timeouts.
Their are so many flaws in the ADSL rollout from Telkom. One would of thought by now they would of tried to improve the service a bit. Its been over a year already. Telkom still do things at the pace of a state department. Hence my slogan at the bottom of my thread.

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podo

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To be honest, the port filtering would annoy me too, but let's be realistic, this is Telkom. The chances of them doing anything that might put their overpriced and out-dated Diginet product at risk is almost zero.

If they marketed the services differently, perhaps this would not be a problem. ADSL, or atleast, the ADSL service they claim the sell, is "best effort", meaning Telkom can't be bothered to fix anything that breaks.

At the moment, ADSL isn't really being marketed to business, not sufficiently anyway. If Telkom changed their strategy from selling ADSL to home users and Diginet to business, to selling ADSL to home users and small businesses, this might not have been a problem.

They might sell an uncapped, static IP or routable netblock ADSL service to business at a reasonable, but higher than home use price, and continue to market Diginet as a solution for businesses that have mission critical data going over the line, and need better reliability than "best effort."

They could even sell a dual-link solution to businesses, Diginet for mission critical data and ADSL for web surfing, that would allow businesses to have reliable service for mission critical data on a Diginet line, with the improved bandwidth of ADSL for web surfing in the office.

Getting Telkom to even consider any of this, will be difficult, but with your support, I feel we have to try.

Willie Viljoen
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Solar

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Even if telkom WANTED to give us static IPs, with the current setup, they can't. Currently they've got two blocks of IPs, one for uncapped users, and one for users that's gone over the 3GB cap.

As soon as you reach your cap, your account is flagged, and next time you dial up, the DHCP server assigns you a IP in the "capped" block. The international router then has a queue, or Qos rule that checks to see if a IP is in that block, and if it is, the rule is imposed.

Currently the whole block is only allowed x amount of bandwidth, instead, they could rather just allow a certain amount of bandwidth PER connection... say 4kbps. At least surfing would then be possible with a capped connection.

Just another proof of telkom's incompetence and greed.
 

regardtv

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Some might find it interesting to note that the DSLAM units (the thingy our ADSL points connect too ;-) is a RedBacks Network controlled device - I noticed that in the good old days before telkom realised that the ports on the unit where still open ;-)

This device - if you buy the add on packages - provides accurate bandwidth monitoring; accounting and filtering. So, it may be presumptious of me BUT - if Telkom had spent just a tad more cash on the network gear we'd have a properly functioning capping solution....

Oh well, the management team DID need a good "bos beraad" AGAIN...

R

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Telkom have an entire /16 for ADSL, that should be more than enough. Infact, that would be enough for each ADSL customer to have 3 static IP's

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