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Stay in SA - Ramaphosa urges young white people
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Excalibur
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I'm referring to you.
OK thanks. Saves me a lot of headscratching trying to figure out your rhetoric.
I can confirm I can see your comments, so you still haven't done it correctly. Try again...as always.
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That lasted long
He took his sweet time. I called him out on a number of things but he had no answer. I'm surprised it took this long to avoid answering the hard questions by blocking me.
Which he still hasn't got right. Wish they'd just hoof the racists and misogynists off. With a bunch of them gone, the forums would take on a different tone.
Welcome to the club, but you know he secretly still reads these comments but can't say anything, otherwise he looks like a complete tw@t, it must frustrate him a little
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How would that be different to how he normally looks?Welcome to the club, but you know he secretly still reads these comments but can't say anything, otherwise he looks like a complete tw@t, it must frustrate him a little
Of that I have no doubt. Except it doesn't say an Ignored Member has posted here so he didn't block me correctly. Hence the try harder commentWelcome to the club, but you know he secretly still reads these comments but can't say anything, otherwise he looks like a complete tw@t, it must frustrate him a little
I'm not a young white person, not old either. sort of on the middle side.
I've thought about this a lot, and I have the ability to work and live in Europe without the need for visas etc. However, for me it has come down to choosing what to give up vs what you gain. Anyone thinking the grass will be and remain greener on the other side is unfortunately in for a surprise.
Every country has its problems and South Africa has a long list of them. However as a country to live in I love it in South Africa and I firmly believe it has a lot of value to still add to the world. When I'm with friends, business people and so forth racism never is an issue and i've never felt "unwelcome" by a black South African in that context and I see us all as equals.
I believe the problem stems more towards some political parties and figures who rally up those with racist views (and this can happen both ways) who spread nonsense and create FUD.
I see my friend's children play with eachother whether they're white, indian, black - and I know they will grow up without color in their minds. Unless we put it there.
So what i mean is, I don't judge those who want to leave, and I don't judge those who want to stay. For me i'm happy to remain in South Africa and i'm willing to accept the caveats that come with it. If one day I don't accept them anymore i'll trade them for other caveats in another country and move there.
I've thought about this a lot, and I have the ability to work and live in Europe without the need for visas etc. However, for me it has come down to choosing what to give up vs what you gain. Anyone thinking the grass will be and remain greener on the other side is unfortunately in for a surprise.
Every country has its problems and South Africa has a long list of them. However as a country to live in I love it in South Africa and I firmly believe it has a lot of value to still add to the world. When I'm with friends, business people and so forth racism never is an issue and i've never felt "unwelcome" by a black South African in that context and I see us all as equals.
I believe the problem stems more towards some political parties and figures who rally up those with racist views (and this can happen both ways) who spread nonsense and create FUD.
I see my friend's children play with eachother whether they're white, indian, black - and I know they will grow up without color in their minds. Unless we put it there.
So what i mean is, I don't judge those who want to leave, and I don't judge those who want to stay. For me i'm happy to remain in South Africa and i'm willing to accept the caveats that come with it. If one day I don't accept them anymore i'll trade them for other caveats in another country and move there.
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Highly unlikely as they are young professionals that know how to behave themselves and unlikely to start a fight with police whilst high on methamphetamine.
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ponder
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Most don't have that luxury of a free pass to leave when the schit hits the fan, big difference.
Well, ironically the countries I would like to live in if not for SA are not in Europe lol so i would be in the same boat.
I have no plans to move but if someone offered me a green card to the USA I'de be out of here so fast there would be flames on the tar
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Nope. This comment is turd. Sometimes, no one is looking over their fence at your garden and going, "I wish I was living there!" as is pretty evident from the net outflow of skilled individuals in this country.
Problem is the grass here is dying rather quickly. There's no electricity for the necessary maintenance of the grass, and pretty soon there won't be water for it either. Also, the grass that was ordered was done through a dodgy tender so it's of the worst quality imaginable. The truck delivering it here was six weeks late due to the multitude of potholes. The truck driver was also held up at gunpoint.
So no, the grass is definitely greener on the other side. Sometimes no one is looking over their fence at your schit patch of dying twigs and saying "wow, I definitely want to live there."
Enjoy those twigs while you still can though, pretty soon that patch of land is going to be expropriated or you'll have to give up 30% of that grass to someone else or you won't be able to use it at all.
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ponder
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Well, ironically the countries I would like to live in if not for SA are not in Europe lol so i would be in the same boat.
I have no plans to move but if someone offered me a green card to the USA I'de be out of here so fast there would be flames on the tar
Point is if things get real bad you'll be fine with europe.
I passed up a sponsored usa move in '98, idiot.
Have you been applying to the Green-Card/Diversity Lottery? If not, you may as well try.Well, ironically the countries I would like to live in if not for SA are not in Europe lol so i would be in the same boat.
I have no plans to move but if someone offered me a green card to the USA I'de be out of here so fast there would be flames on the tar
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Why don't you just block everyone that disagrees with you?
It'll sure save us the trouble of reading your racial rhetoric in the hope that you've seen the light for what it is?
The light is white.
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So the grass is not greener on the other side and all other countries have the same extent of problems as SA. I wonder why so many have left for greener pastures if the pastures is not any greener than here? Please expalin this exodus when there is no reason for it. Everyone I have spoken to are very glad they left, and will never come back.
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