Stay in SA - Ramaphosa urges young white people

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Vrotappel

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They exist, friends dad hates the uk with every fibre in his being, him & the wife were born there. They've also lived in oz, their kids moved to nz a few years back and they went over for a long stay (retired) to check it out with the aim of joining the children & grandkids (which would be easy as they're oz citizens), old guy said notta fsck he's gonna spend his last years in sa as nz is not for him. These are well-off people with za, oz, uk & irish citizenship that can pick where they wanna live. That said they're 'glad' their children left for their future.

I also know a few europeans that wont go back (one has royal blood nogals, lol).
I think the 'well-off' is the give away here. They know if things go south they can leave immediately. A luxury most of us will never have.
 

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Guys, you need to decide. Either you all pay taxes and float economy or most of you are jobless, landless, business- less, parental-moneyless because of BEE.

I mean even with my lowest of intelligence, I see some issues here so how come you don't get it?
 

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I think the 'well-off' is the give away here. They know if things go south they can leave immediately.

They won't though, they're old and the old guy wants to live out his last few years & die here. The wife will then move to be with the kids.
The wife lived through the Mau Mau uprising in kenya, they've seen it all before.
 

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They won't though, they're old and the old guy wants to live out his last few years & die here. The wife will then move to be with the kids.
The wife lived through the Mau Mau uprising in kenya, they've seen it all before.
So much this, what happened just across our borders.

Then you get ******** imports with a passport in their back pockets like this still fanning the flames:
Guys, you need to decide. Either you all pay taxes and float economy or most of you are jobless, landless, business- less, parental-moneyless because of BEE.

I mean even with my lowest of intelligence, I see some issues here so how come you don't get it?

I really wonder if he was chased away and thrown out where he was, or ran away. No better than other race baiting lowlife trolls.
 

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Guys, you need to decide. Either you all pay taxes and float economy or most of you are jobless, landless, business- less, parental-moneyless because of BEE.

I mean even with my lowest of intelligence, I see some issues here so how come you don't get it?
We are so great that we can be successful even with BEE. It's fscking up most of the country, most SOEs. We still have jobs. We make our own. No need for the government to provide us with jobs. Maybe that is above your understanding.
 

Thugscub

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Why don't you just block everyone that disagrees with you?

It'll sure save us the trouble of reading your racial rhetoric in the hope that you've seen the light for what it is?
The last one on the payroll of Bell Pottinger.
Even though it cannot see it.
 

oldtimerZA

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Talent.io and honeypot.io are two great websites for finding jobs in the EU for anyone looking for IT jobs abroad. Myself and many friends have ended up in NL and DE (Berlin and Amsterdam are desperate for software engineers).

I'm heading back to SA due to the pandemic. But it is always a good idea to have a backup plan for when the ANC goes full ZANU on the country.

Just thought I'd share some information to help those seeking to leave the country from the posts I read in this thread.

On that note, keep in mind that the grass isn't always greener on the other side. The salaries are higher, but so is the cost of everything else. Property is especially ludicrously priced. But if you don't mind living and renting a tiny studio apartment a few km's from city center then it's a pretty good life.
 

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I have never heard of or spoken to anyone who fled USA or UK and said they will never go back. You are invering that UK and USA problems are equal to SA problems, and that the fleeing out of SA is the same as people fleeing UK and USA.
You have to get out more. I have friends from the US/UK and Netherlands who moved here to SA and swear they will never return. My one friend from the US renounced his US citizenship (mostly for tax reasons though) and swore he would never set foot on US soil again. The guy from the UK is married to a South African who has hinted about maybe one day moving to the UK for their kid's education and he keeps shooting that idea down. The couple from the Netherlands live a few houses away and they do make occasional trips back there for family visits, but they also say they will never move back there permanently. Now I'm not saying that the problems there are anything like ours, but that was straight from them.
 

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You have to get out more. I have friends from the US/UK and Netherlands who moved here to SA and swear they will never return. My one friend from the US renounced his US citizenship (mostly for tax reasons though) and swore he would never set foot on US soil again. The guy from the UK is married to a South African who has hinted about maybe one day moving to the UK for their kid's education and he keeps shooting that idea down. The couple from the Netherlands live a few houses away and they do make occasional trips back there for family visits, but they also say they will never move back there permanently. Now I'm not saying that the problems there are anything like ours, but that was straight from them.
I know a couple who moved to South Africa for mining work from Switzerland and Austria.

They've lived here for years and eventually retired here. They agree that they'll never return to Switzerland as it's impossible to live the lifestyle they're living in South Africa. Property prices and weather are too much to handle all year round.

Now they run a small steel supply and maintenance shop to keep the retirement cash flowing in.
 

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You have to get out more. I have friends from the US/UK and Netherlands who moved here to SA and swear they will never return. My one friend from the US renounced his US citizenship (mostly for tax reasons though) and swore he would never set foot on US soil again. The guy from the UK is married to a South African who has hinted about maybe one day moving to the UK for their kid's education and he keeps shooting that idea down. The couple from the Netherlands live a few houses away and they do make occasional trips back there for family visits, but they also say they will never move back there permanently. Now I'm not saying that the problems there are anything like ours, but that was straight from them.
Yeah well I think its been stated that we should not be comparing people in SA with no easy option to go with people who can go easily. All the foreigners that I know moved back to their homeland already. It also depends on how much money you have.
 

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Still a lot of money to be stolen here. Im not ready just yet. Although the plans are basically in place.
 

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the more stealing going on the more I make. Day that dries up My family and I are out of here. Plans for a hasty exit with a place to call home are in place.
 

Benedict A55h0le

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the more stealing going on the more I make. Day that dries up My family and I are out of here. Plans for a hasty exit with a place to call home are in place.
Like you said there is still much to steal but once EWC is here the theftonomter will go out of scale. Everything we own will become not owned by us anymore overnight.
 
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