Stellenbosch University student's belongings urinated on in allegedly racist incident

[Phylax]

Phew, I’m glad his best friend is black so it’s an open and shut case.

And if he didn't have any black friends you would've said the same thing...

 

[Herr der Verboten]

Mountain, molehill. Meh, sensationalist nonsense.

RaceCoin

 

[s0lar]

RaceCoin

https://race-coin.io/ ??

 

[surface]

Actually, it could play a crucial role in how he is determined as a person. Say the matter does go to court, then those close to him could be called to the stand to present him as a person, or in the public’s view, as a white person.

See below the definition of non-racist as I pointed out.

To repeat, Konfab completely changed the definition of a racist here. As per his thesis presented for myBB, if you let a black guy sodomize you, then you cannot be supremacist/racist. Extensive graphic evidence has been presented in the thesis done on Milo Yiannopoulos.

 

[PrimeSteak]

Why has the peeman not made a public statement of his side of the story?

It’s not a good look if he is innocent of it being a racist thing if he keeps quiet. If he did an interview and could honestly say it was just a horrible drunken mistake that probably wouldn’t stop the pitchfork crowds but it would definitely go a good way to putting some brakes on the situation.

As it is now it looks rather ominous that he’s keeping quite, that’s what a guilty person would do, stay low, try and limit any chance of incriminating themselves and leave it up to daddy’s lawyers to fix things in court.

While I get your point, the problem is even if he defends himself and vehemently denies the racism allegations, no one would believe him and might in fact incite the public even more.

At this point, it would be pointless to make a statement since the public, the media and political parties seem to have made up their minds about this case.

 

[PrimeSteak]

Matie pee scandal: Theuns du Toit’s best friend is black says his mentor

SOME students and those close to the Stellenbosch University perpetrator embroiled in the infamous pee scandal have come to his defence and denied that he was a racist.

www.iol.co.za

Interesting.

 

[PrimeSteak]

Actually, it could play a crucial role in how he is determined as a person. Say the matter does go to court, then those close to him could be called to the stand to present him as a person, or in the public’s view, as a white person.

Exactly.

 

[TelkomUseless]

While I get your point, the problem is even if he defends himself and vehemently denies the racism allegations, no one would believe him and might in fact incite the public even more.

At this point, it would be pointless to make a statement since the public, the media and political parties seem to have made up their minds about this case.

Spot on. No need for a hearing, investigation etc... he is already guilty in public opinion.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Adriaan Basson have more to add,

Adriaan Basson | Stellenbosch: Reconciliation can't replace justice, but both are important | News24

It is entirely reasonable for Babalo Ndwayana's father to seek justice before he talks about reconciliation with Rudi du Toit, writes Adriaan Basson.

www.news24.com

Adriaan Basson | Stellenbosch: Reconciliation can't replace justice, but both are important​

It is entirely reasonable for Babalo Ndwayana's father to seek justice before he talks about reconciliation with Rudi du Toit, writes Adriaan Basson.

Justice, then reconciliation. Article is pay gated.

 

[Fulcrum29]

For the public's attention, Ramaphosa has spoken,

Cyril Ramaphosa | Stellenbosch: We need to understand what is causing racist incidents to flourish | News24

While the incident at the University of Stellenbosch may seem like an aberration – an appalling act that has been roundly condemned – the truth is that racism is still a feature of everyday life in South Africa, writes Cyril Ramaphosa.

www.news24.com

Cyril Ramaphosa | Stellenbosch: We need to understand what is causing racist incidents to flourish​

While the incident at the University of Stellenbosch may seem like an aberration – an appalling act that has been roundly condemned – the truth is that racism is still a feature of everyday life in South Africa, writes Cyril Ramaphosa.

Dear Fellow South African,

The country has, in recent days, been outraged at the sight of a white student at the University of Stellenbosch degrading and humiliating a fellow black student in a despicable act.

There has been widespread anger that such acts still take place in a country with a bitter past like ours; a past which we have fought so hard to overcome.

It is more troubling that such incidents are happening at schools and places of higher learning. A number of the people involved were born after the end of apartheid.

Racism alive and well

While the incident at the University of Stellenbosch may seem like an aberration – an appalling act that has been roundly condemned – the truth is that racism is still a feature of everyday life in South Africa. The sooner we recognise that reality, the sooner we can change it.

We know that racism, here and around the world, is driven by feelings of superiority on the part of those who perpetuate it. And although racism can be directed against anyone, it is black people who bear the brunt, both in the past and in the present. As the "Black Lives Matter" movement has so strongly asserted, we need to systematically dismantle and eradicate attitudes of white superiority.

It is encouraging and exhilarating to see young South Africans taking the lead in this effort. The thousands of students who have joined protests at Stellenbosch and elsewhere were not responding to just one incident.

They were responding to a deep and pervasive problem in our society, which they themselves have to confront daily.

As Kwenzokuhle Khumalo, a fourth year Management Sciences student and leader, told students on the Stellenbosch campus this week:

You’ve met the wrong generation this time.

Like the youth of 1976, a new generation of young South Africans is stepping forward to proclaim their birth right and reclaim their future. They are challenging society to grapple with racism, its causes and its effects. As Ms Khumalo rightly said, it is not black people who are the problem and need attention, but those people who still hold on to ideas of white superiority.

Crossing bridges

It cannot be that the onus must rest with the formerly oppressed as the main victims of racism to advance reconciliation. It cannot be that black South Africans have to continue to prove themselves worthy of dignity and respect.

In a 2016 judgment on a case involving an employee of the South African Revenue Service who was fired for using the k-word at work, Chief Justice Mogoeng Mogoeng wrote:

There are many bridges yet to be crossed in our journey from crude and legalised racism to a new order where social cohesion, equality and the effortless observance of the right to dignity is a practical reality.

If we are going to cross these bridges, we need to understand what is causing racist attitudes to flourish in our schools and places of higher learning. We need to understand what kind of institutional cultures contribute to racism in the workplace, in social organisations and in communities.

We need frank and honest dialogue between people of different races on the experiences of black people in South Africa 28 years into democracy.

These discussions should be part of the life orientation curriculum in our schools. The arts and culture community should produce content and programming that fully reflects the diversity of the country and the lived experiences of people of all races.

Greater emphasis should be placed on inculcating tolerance and respect for diversity in the classroom from a young age. Parents should be part of this effort because the reality is that racist, chauvinistic and sexist attitudes among the younger generation are often a reflection of what they observe and learn from their parents and older relatives at home.

As many student leaders who took part in protests over the past week said, when it comes to transformation, the time for half-measures is over.

This doesn’t only apply to overt racism in schools, workplaces and places of higher learning, but to all of society. Just as racists must be held accountable for their actions, all sectors of society, including business, must advance transformation.

The rights to equality and human dignity are the cornerstones of our Constitution, and building a non-racial and non-sexist society is our shared fundamental responsibility.

Redressing a grave injustice

In complying with employment equity legislation, in advancing broad-based black economic empowerment, in taking practical steps towards redress and undoing the legacy of our discriminatory past, we are not just obeying the law.

We are redressing a grave injustice and building a new country in which race, class and gender no longer determine the circumstances of one’s birth or one’s prospects in life.

Ending racism is not just about changing attitudes; it is also about changing the material conditions that still today separate black and white South Africans.

We have come too far and the sacrifices made have been too great for such appalling acts of racism to turn us against each other. Rather, we must use this incident to confront the issue of race and racial inequality in our society.

It is our wish and expectation that the student population and the broader Stellenbosch University community, both black and white, find each other and rally together to confront racism honestly with courage and truthfulness. They must roundly reject what has happened and express their determination to achieve a learning environment free of bigotry, racism and chauvinism and embrace a non-racial future for Stellenbosch University. By so doing they will set the standard for us all.

With best regards.

 

[PrimeSteak]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1528677505695109121

Lmao. Of course, Mmusi would post this. One antie is now "the youth".

Do you think it's fair every time something like this happens you immediately jump to racism? Or that you demonize and generalize me and all other white youths cause of one retard's actions?

Something I wonder is tho, let's say Theuns gets acquitted of being a racist when everything goes to court (he shouldn't be acquitted of anything else tho), will these same people who rant about "white supremacy", "whiteness" and "racism", will the same media who stokes the flames wherever they go, take back all the "racism" claims and incitements or not?

Lemme tell you, they won't. Cause it's seen as fair game, par for the course.

 

[Craig_]

Jiskaaik, people are milking this thing. A rape happened at the same time but isn't receiving the same attention. Maybe we should focus on some of the bigger issues as well. Our country's priorities seems to be a bit messed up.

 

[PrimeSteak]

Adriaan Basson have more to add,

Adriaan Basson | Stellenbosch: Reconciliation can't replace justice, but both are important | News24

It is entirely reasonable for Babalo Ndwayana's father to seek justice before he talks about reconciliation with Rudi du Toit, writes Adriaan Basson.

www.news24.com

Justice, then reconciliation. Article is pay gated.

This guy just loves to act like a hero, lol.

 

[PrimeSteak]

Jiskaaik, people are milking this thing.

Yup, like with every thing that's made a racial issue.

A rape happened at the same time but isn't receiving the same attention.

Are you surprised?

Maybe we should focus on some of the bigger issues as well. Our country's priorities seems to be a bit messed up.

If it's racism, it's more important than anything. True or not.

 

[Craig_]

Yup, like with every thing that's made a racial issue.

Are you surprised?

If it's racism, it's more important than anything. True or not.

Look, when I perceive something as racist I'm all for shouting it as loud as possible, but this really is an overreaction, and yes, I'd have thought people would easily see it as such. This is now turning into everyone and their mothers using it purely to drive their own agenda.

It's despicable.

 

[PrimeSteak]

Look, when I perceive something as racist I'm all for shouting it as loud as possible

Same here. If there was actual proof or something in the actual video then I'd scream alongside you that he is a racist.

but this really is an overreaction, and yes, I'd have thought people would easily see it as such. This is now turning into everyone and their mothers using it purely to drive their own agenda.

It's despicable.

It is. I agree.

Just another racial agenda about how all white people are bad and racist, etc with the media and political parties just nodding their heads along...

Makes me sad man

 

[PrimeSteak]

Stellenbosch University incident 'akin to urinating on the Constitution itself' - Lamola | News24

Minister of Justice and Correctional Services, Ronald Lamola has described Stellenbosch University student Theuns du Toit urinating on a black student's belongings as similar to 'urinating on the Constitution'.

www.news24.com

Minister of Justice and Correctional Services, Ronald Lamola has described Stellenbosch University student Theuns du Toit urinating on a black student's belongings as similar to urinating on the Constitution.

Lamola said white parents were responsible for ensuring they did not raise racist children.

"We have to appeal to white parents to preach love and diversity in their families. There is no reason for a 21-year-old to be accused of racism in this day and age. This points to the upbringing of this child."

 

[mojoman]

Same here. If there was actual proof or something in the actual video then I'd scream alongside you that he is a racist.

It is. I agree.

Just another racial agenda about how all white people are bad and racist, etc with the media and political parties just nodding their heads along...

Makes me sad man

It makes me laugh...
Much more important crap in the world than this over flogged dog's bollocks of a story...

 

[Fulcrum29]

Stellenbosch University incident 'akin to urinating on the Constitution itself' - Lamola | News24

Minister of Justice and Correctional Services, Ronald Lamola has described Stellenbosch University student Theuns du Toit urinating on a black student's belongings as similar to 'urinating on the Constitution'.

www.news24.com

Perhaps he should have appealed to all parents, but I guess it is down with the whiteness.

 

[mojoman]

Perhaps he should have appealed to all parents, but I guess it is down with the whiteness.

Lol...comedy gold...
Anyway...let them focus on that for a while....