Stellenbosch wine farm ordered to pay R800 000 to employee it fired when she gave birth to baby

[ForceFate]

The amount seemed a bit excessive, but maybe not considering her position

Article literal states she earned R50k pm.

 

[ShaunSA]

Another 30%er outing himself

 

[rietrot]

Article literal states she earned R50k pm.

Who reads the articles? Lol.

 

[azbob]

Around here we're always told you need to be smart to be a CEO. Then along come de Ruyter, Saltzmann and Gaiduk.

 

[ShaunSA]

Around here we're always told you need to be smart to be a CEO. Then along come de Ruyter, Saltzmann and Gaiduk.

The bar is set very low. All you need is the right connections

 

[Pak Fa Fui]

Around here we're always told you need to be smart to be a CEO. Then along come de Ruyter, Saltzmann and Gaiduk.

Most CEOs have the grammar and intelligence of a manager at a car wash, all they say is, I dont give a fck, just get it done

 

[Cosmik Debris]

R800k is most likely the money owed to her, in the US it would be R8 million

You've worked in the US? The boss can fire you if he has a headache and you irritate him. Elon Musk just fired a lot of Twitter. More might go. No consequences.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Who reads the articles? Lol.

That's the reason your comments are always so inane.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Most CEOs have the grammar and intelligence of a manager at a car wash, all they say is, I dont give a fck, just get it done

And that's what you're paid to do - Get it done.

 

[Quicks]

Execs can be fired at will, but they can take you to court for compensation. Even the execs fired by twitter will be paid.

Elon Musk to Twitter executives: You’re fired, but about that $122 million severance...

Musk’s first act as CEO has been to fire three Twitter execs. But will he pay their hefty severance packages?

fortune.com

Now, imagine this is your wife being fired for being pregnant.

“The bird has been freed” at Twitter with Elon Musk’s takeover, and now it looks like a bunch of executives are getting millions of dollars to stop doing their jobs.

Well that not a bad deal!!!

 

[Craig_]

Firstly, I would not be dumb enough to start a business locally and create workplaces in this country. The government and laws are solidly against the business or any person wanting to start a business. That being said, I pretty much agree with the statements above. These people wanted to do business in SA. They disagreed with me and done what I never would have done in the first place. They needed to invest in an HR department, as well as a legal department to help them not falling victim to courts.

You can't even afford to pay R2k month for medical aid, where the hell will you get the money to start a business. Delusions of grandeur.....

 

[Craig_]

You've worked in the US? The boss can fire you if he has a headache and you irritate him. Elon Musk just fired a lot of Twitter. More might go. No consequences.

Isn't that only in the "at will" states?

 

[RedViking]

With Managers like that, the importance of our labour laws can't be emphasized enough.

Imagine the surprise one of these days when it is the He's having babies. Oh boy....

 

[koeks525]

Toxic company. I hope the wine is not as toxic as the management of that wine farm.

So much is wrong with how things were handled. I hope the lady takes the money and walks away. R800K can do quite a bit; she could buy a flat, go on holiday, invest it, etc.

According to the court judgment, she worked from the hospital before the handover and took work calls.

Really disgusting that a company would expect an employee to work while lying in hospital.

 

[PaulMurkin]

With an education like this, Ukrainian businessman Vitaly Gaiduk and his son Denis, should have known far better:

Denis Gaiduk​

CEO at Quoin Rock Wines - Executive MBA Global at Columbia Business School​

City of Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa​

Education​

• Columbia Business School
  
  
  

  Columbia Business School​

  Master of Business Administration - MBABusiness Administration and Management, GeneralMBA Executive Global​

  2017 - 2019
• London Business School
  
  
  

  London Business School​

  Master of Business Administration - MBAEMBA-Global Americas & Europe​

  2017 - 2019
• Newcastle University
  
  
  

  Newcastle University​

  Master of Science - MSMechatronics, Robotics, and Automation Engineering​

  2006 - 2007

Ah look, been to all the right places to learn how to be a colossal douchebag.

 

[PaulMurkin]

Toxic company. I hope the wine is not as toxic as the management of that wine farm.

So much is wrong with how things were handled. I hope the lady takes the money and walks away. R800K can do quite a bit; she could buy a flat, go on holiday, invest it, etc.



Really disgusting that a company would expect an employee to work while lying in hospital.

Welcome to South Africa mate... that's one of the reasons why we left SA. That and the ANC. But overwhelmingly I got tired of all the abuse at work.

 

[TheChamp]

Most CEOs have the grammar and intelligence of a manager at a car wash, all they say is, I dont give a fck, just get it done

Maybe the family business types, most CEOs I know take themselves very seriously.

 

[ponder]

R800k is most likely the money owed to her, in the US it would be R8 million

SA legal system does not do punitive damages like the US, we should.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Toxic company. I hope the wine is not as toxic as the management of that wine farm.

So much is wrong with how things were handled. I hope the lady takes the money and walks away. R800K can do quite a bit; she could buy a flat, go on holiday, invest it, etc.



Really disgusting that a company would expect an employee to work while lying in hospital.

The Gaiduk's have been given much praise. They also acquired Knorhoek which is sister to Quoin Rock, well, the properties were separated and then liquidated IIRC in which transaction the Gaiduk's acquired Quoin Rock and then in 2019 Knorhoek.

I doubt this incident will impact their business. From my view, it doesn't seem that they had incorporated HR, many 'small' owned vineyards with wineries source HR. I hope that this incident promotes better business consciences and procedures within their organisation. In the case not, history tends to repeat.

 

[konfab]

Let's put aside labour law for a bit.

Do these business owners think this a good way to treat their employees? You don't need any law to tell you not to be a c*nt.

As a business, all they should have demanded from her were baby photos once she gave birth.

It you want the best out of your employees, you respect them.