''String of scandals hammer ANC's image''

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Johannesburg - An unprecedented string of scandals has led to a haemorraging of support for the ANC which can only be reversed with a thorough purge of the leadership, according to analysts.

With its former chief whip in prison, his successor accused of sexual harrassment and deputy president under a cloud after his financial advisor was jailed, the party which has dominated power since the end of apartheid appears intent on dragging itself through the mud on a weekly basis.

"This puts the party in as bad a position as ever before," said political analyst Frederick van zyl Slabbert.

"There is no cohesive control. The leadership is just giving speeches about corruption and everything, but there is no action, nothing is being done.

"The only solution, which seems to be hard for the party leaders, is to fire the corrupt officials and get Luthuli House (ANC headquarters) in order. Period."

Scandal is hardly a new phenomenon for the ANC.

Allan Boesak, one of its spiritual leaders during the battle apartheid, was jailed for siphoning off party funds in 2000 while former president Nelson Mandela's ex-wife Winnie - who was also head of the ANC women's league - was convicted of fraud.

Perception of double standards

But the roll of shame of the past few months has left some to charge that its unchallenged authority since the end of whites-only rule 12 years ago has led to complacency and abuse of power.

When former chief whip Tony Yengeni was jailed for fraud in August, he was carried to prison on the shoulders of party supporters with the speaker of parliament and a cabinet minister in attendance as well.

The perception of double standards was further reinforced last weekend when Yengeni was pictured with beer in hand at a barbeque while on weekend leave less than three months into a four-year sentence.

His successor Mbulelo Goniwe, already being chased for unpaid child maintenance, was suspended last week after an intern alleged he sexually propositioned her.

Five ANC MPs are currently standing trial over accusations they fiddled travel expenses worth thousands of dollars.

And Jacob Zuma, the movement's deputy president who was cleared of rape earlier this year, still faces possible corruption charges linked to his former financial advisor and one-time ANC banker Schabir Shaik who last week began a 15-year jail sentence.

Voters may look elsewhere

Aubrey Matshiqi, an analyst at the Johannesburg-based Centre for Policy Studies, said the conduct of ANC bigwigs was damaging public faith in the country's fledgling democracy.

"It undermines the confidence of the voter, undermines the image of politics and politicians in general. People are no longer having confidence in the party's moral authority," he said.

Matshiqi said if the party is unable to clean up its house, then voters who have previously given their overwhelming backing to the ANC as a result of its leading role in the anti-apartheid struggle, may look elsewhere.

"If this tendency is not arrested soon, it may be beneficial to democracy, giving people a chance to look at reliable alternatives to the ANC," he sad.

Smuts Ngonyama, head of the ANC presidency, countered however that the public should be heartened by the party's transparency. "It goes to show that as a party, we are not sweeping anything under carpet," said Ngonyama.

"Mistakes do happen but that does not mean that will change the image of the party. The party is too big to be affected by one person's mistakes.

"Our leaders are also human beings who make mistakes. The majority of them are good leaders with good morals."

The ANC's dominance is such that more than three-quarters of the 400 MPs who sit in the Cape Town parliament belong to the party.

While few observers believe the opposition parties can hope for an electoral breakthrough any time soon, there is widespread concern on the wider impact of voter disillusionment.

Xolela Mangcu, a columnist for the Business Day newspaper, said the rot had set in so deep it was time for a complete overhaul of the "corruption-ridden leadership".

"What this seems to suggest is that the ANC needs completely new leaders ... before we sink deeper and deeper into cynicism."
 

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Except the problem is that I do not think the majority of the citizens of South Africa understand the point of democracy.

The point of democracy (simplified) is that you can use the ballot to punish leaders/parties that misbehave. That is the primary use of a vote. To give other parties a chance when the one in power fails.

However the ANC likes to play the liberation card and as a result they gain emotional credit and support for the actions of others. For example consider the Victor Petersen shirts you sometime see ANC supporters wearing. Except the thing is, that rally was a PAC rally.

The ANC does not need new leaders. The ANC needs to be voted from power. And then the ANC needs to accept their ousting with a little more grace and decency than they displayed in Cape Town
 

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The ANC needs to be voted from power. And then the ANC needs to accept their ousting with a little more grace and decency than they displayed in Cape Town

If that ever happens, I really hope that me and my family are not here anymore. The ANC would NEVER accept a defeat at the ballot.

The day that happens is the day the crap would really hit the fan. That would be the day when things get really violent and Zimbabwean.
 

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If that ever happens, I really hope that me and my family are not here anymore. The ANC would NEVER accept a defeat at the ballot.

The day that happens is the day the crap would really hit the fan. That would be the day when things get really violent and Zimbabwean.

Again this is why it would be a good reason for the anc to split
 

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writer probably means - String of scandals "affirms" ANC's image?
 

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If that ever happens, I really hope that me and my family are not here anymore. The ANC would NEVER accept a defeat at the ballot.

The day that happens is the day the crap would really hit the fan. That would be the day when things get really violent and Zimbabwean.

Civil wars are rarely civilised.

The ANC needs to either be beaten or shape up. I don't care which. I wouldn't mind living in a country under ANC rule if they were competent. Same goes for any other party... I wouldn't want to live under an incompetent DA, etc either. But the opposition needs a chance now, to show our 'leaders' how to lead.
 

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In India, there is one weed which grows all over the place. It has absolutely no use to anybody, its flowers have foul smell, it is harmful to other useful shrubs and so on. It is "fondly" called congress weed, named after Indian National Congress
 

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not to get into another DA bashing spat - it's far too easy - they don't know how to lead - what we need is a strong opposition in this country ( preferably not the DA ) to ensure accountability - unfortunately in this country - the opposition keeps dividing themselves into small insignificant parties - the ANC on the other hand consolidated themselves into the tri-partite alliance, and despite their differences they keep it together - cause they know they need to
 

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not to get into another DA bashing spat - t's far too easy - they don't know how to lead - what we need is a strong opposition in this country ( preferably not the DA ) to ensure accountability - unfortunately in this country - the opposition keeps dividing themselves into small insignificant parties - the ANC on the other hand consolidated themselves into the tri-partite alliance, and despite their differences they keep it together - cause they know they need to

Im not a DA fanboy but please give some facts on how you know the DA dont know how to lead.
 

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what we need is a strong opposition in this country to ensure accountability - unfortunately in this country - the opposition keeps dividing themselves into small insignificant parties - the ANC on the other hand consolidated themselves into the tri-partite alliance, and despite their differences they keep it together - cause they know they need to

Ignoring the more inflammatory remarks, this post is quite correct. However, even with consolidation the opposition won't be able to field nearly the resources and support that The Party wields. :(
 

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well for one they have an idiot for a leader, and are only good at opposing policies, laws without even taking the time out to look at the impact of such laws, if you look at other parties like the FF+, you will see that they only oppose legislation they have problems with - I also have a problem with anyone who is a career politician - people like Tony Leon, Koos van der Merwe, etc. they are not there to serve or try to change things for the better, but because it's their job to get into parly and stay in parly
 

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As opposed to career businessmen who use political power to rape the country fro their benefit?

The ANC pushes through laws without understanding the impact either. Just look at the FCA no. 60 of 2000...
 

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oh, they know the impact, but if the opposition is too weak and divided to stop it, they will get their way
 

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oh, they know the impact, but if the opposition is too weak and divided to stop it, they will get their way

According to that logic, then, they're knowingly pushing through bad legislation simply because they can. Why? Because doing the wrong thing can be spun to look good, and it's easier then doing the right thing?
 

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oh, they know the impact, but if the opposition is too weak and divided to stop it, they will get their way
What kind of answer is that?

I am unfamiliar with FCA no. 60 of 2000 but from the post and response it seems a bad thing?

I've never understood: how people can lie (and seemingly believe that is the truth) or lie when they know it is not the truth.

Sidestep, lie, ignore, or "not available for comment."

Had the thought: if we had the new press laws that were proposed (and still sitting out there) we would probably not have heard the Selebi fiasco.

This government seems the same as all other african government: in it for their own enrichment and damn the rest.

And these are not voted politicians; they are appointed, seemingly in most instance with no clue and no interest (besides the perks and salaries.)

Sickening.

(oh, and BTW: so the ANC knowingly for their own purposes(?) passes bad legislation?)
 

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No, the Govt passes legislation they believe will be beneficial to the country, whether they are right or wrong, that is another argument - but if the opposition in Parliament were stronger, they could oppose bills they thought was detrimental.

While MPs seem to be appointed, this is not entirely true, each political party has to provide the IEC with a list of candidates, after the vote these candidates fill the seats in parliament, the President then selects his cabinet from these people ( i.e anyone who has a seat in parliament from any party )

the lists are published, and so anyone voting for a party knows who he/she is voting for.

BTW - the President is elected by Parliament after the General election, although this is done merely as a ceremony than an actual election - the house nominates candidates, a vote is taken and the winner becomes President
 
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The ANC can pass whatever bill it likes because of the majority it has gained in Parliament. How exactly do you propose that the opposition gets stronger, besides voting against the policies?
 

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The ANC can pass whatever bill it likes because of the majority it has gained in Parliament. How exactly do you propose that the opposition gets stronger, besides voting against the policies?

by consolidating themselves, granted the ANC can't be outvoted with the majority they now enjoy, but a united campaign in the next election could see them reduce that majority stronghold in parly.
 

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Thank you xtermin8or for your considered reply; and I apologise for my veiled racism (and your ignoring such.)

This government seems the same as all other african government: in it for their own enrichment and damn the rest.

Perhaps this is true of government all around the world but why does it seem so particularly true of african government?

(see - there is that racism thing again - and that is how easy it is.)

I wish.
 

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You are right Kilo, this is true of every Government, one only has to look to the American or British Governments to see true corruption ( campaign contributions - 911 - Katrina - no confidence in blair - Jack Straw -JFK etc)

we have our own as well, as do many other African states, but generalisations such as This is Africa what more do you expect - is nothing but purely racist statements - attack corruption here or anywhere is you want to - defend it if you have to - but to make general statements is just wrong
 
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