Sun's Fading Spots Signal Big Drop in Solar Activity

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Space.com: Sun's Fading Spots Signal Big Drop in Solar Activity

Some unusual solar readings, including fading sunspots and weakening magnetic activity near the poles, could be indications that our sun is preparing to be less active in the coming years.

The results of three separate studies seem to show that even as the current sunspot cycle swells toward the solar maximum, the sun could be heading into a more-dormant period, with activity during the next 11-year sunspot cycle greatly reduced or even eliminated.

The results of the new studies were announced today (June 14) at the annual meeting of the solar physics division of the American Astronomical Society, which is being held this week at New Mexico State University in Las Cruces...."

Nat Geo: Sun Headed Into Hibernation, Solar Studies Predict
Enjoy our stormy sun while it lasts. When our star drops out of its latest sunspot activity cycle, the sun is most likely going into hibernation, scientists announced today.

Three independent studies of the sun's insides, surface, and upper atmosphere all predict that the next solar cycle will be significantly delayed—if it happens at all. Normally, the next cycle would be expected to start roughly around 2020.

The combined data indicate that we may soon be headed into what's known as a grand minimum, a period of unusually low solar activity.

The predicted solar "sleep" is being compared to the last grand minimum on record, which occurred between 1645 and 1715....

Read up on the Maunder and Dalton minimum to see what happens when sun spots disappear.

Interesting times...
 

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Hoo boy. From AGW to SGC (Solar Global Cooling). This is bad news - we need a warmer earth. Maybe the Warmist will call on humanity to start pumping out as many greenhouse gases as possible just to mitigate the cooling? (I doubt it, though - their real agenda is political and social. Besides, human-caused g/house gases have no effect on climate, in my view.)
 
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We can't take anything these scientists predict regarding the sun seriously. A couple of years ago they were all predicting that this solar maximum would be the worst ever. Now the complete reverse is occuring.
 

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Um, is it not this?

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2001/ast15feb_1/

The Sun's magnetic north pole, which was in the northern hemisphere just a few months ago, now points south. It's a topsy-turvy situation, but not an unexpected one.
"This always happens around the time of solar maximum," says David Hathaway, a solar physicist at the Marshall Space Flight Center. "The magnetic poles exchange places at the peak of the sunspot cycle. In fact, it's a good indication that Solar Max is really here."

Above: Sunspot counts, plotted here against an x-ray image of the Sun, are nearing their maximum for the current solar cycle. [more information]
The Sun's magnetic poles will remain as they are now, with the north magnetic pole pointing through the Sun's southern hemisphere, until the year 2012 when they will reverse again. This transition happens, as far as we know, at the peak of every 11-year sunspot cycle -- like clockwork.
 

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Will it switch off on Dec 20something 2012? :D


Um, is it not this?

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2001/ast15feb_1/

The Sun's magnetic north pole, which was in the northern hemisphere just a few months ago, now points south. It's a topsy-turvy situation, but not an unexpected one.
"This always happens around the time of solar maximum," says David Hathaway, a solar physicist at the Marshall Space Flight Center. "The magnetic poles exchange places at the peak of the sunspot cycle. In fact, it's a good indication that Solar Max is really here."

Above: Sunspot counts, plotted here against an x-ray image of the Sun, are nearing their maximum for the current solar cycle. [more information]
The Sun's magnetic poles will remain as they are now, with the north magnetic pole pointing through the Sun's southern hemisphere, until the year 2012 when they will reverse again. This transition happens, as far as we know, at the peak of every 11-year sunspot cycle -- like clockwork.

Some of the responses in this thread are so depressing and highlight how much more our country still needs to spend on education :(

Hoo boy. From AGW to SGC (Solar Global Cooling). This is bad news - we need a warmer earth. Maybe the Warmist will call on humanity to start pumping out as many greenhouse gases as possible just to mitigate the cooling? (I doubt it, though - their real agenda is political and social. Besides, human-caused g/house gases have no effect on climate, in my view.)
:sick: Really now...:crying:
 
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http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2011/06/new-ice-age-dont-count-on-it.html
If you believe the world's newspapers today, the sun is about to send Earth into another "Little Ice Age", cooling the planet and reprieving us from global warming.

Don't believe the world's newspapers.

The reality is that, while the sun may well be about to give us a shove in the direction of cool temperatures, the evidence suggests it won't be anything like enough to drown out the warming effects of our greenhouse gas emissions.

It's beyond doubt that the sun has been acting rather oddly over the last few years. Ordinarily, its activity varies over about 11 years, but since 2007 it seems to have stalled.

This week a string of researchers presented new data showing that the sun still isn't perking up. That means, rather than having a solar maximum in 2013, we might not see one for a long time. Instead, the sun could go into a prolonged lull lasting several decades.

This has happened before, the most famous example being the Maunder Minimum of 1645-1715 when the sun became less luminous than normal and hardly any sunspots were seen on its surface. There is plenty of evidence that such "grand minima" cool the Earth: it's one of the more dramatic effects the sun's changing activity can have on our climate. The Maunder Minimum itself is widely linked to the Little Ice Age.

Here's where the story lurches away from reality. According to the Global Warming Policy Foundation (of whom more here), the sun's shutdown means that:
"The Earth - far from facing a global warming problem - is actually headed into a mini ice age"

This idea has been picked up worldwide, as a sample of headlines shows.

Telegraph: 10 reasons to be cheerful about the coming new Ice Age
Fox News: Global Warming Be Damned, We Might Be Headed for a Mini Ice Age
Sydney Morning Herald: Quiet sun: drop in solar activity may signal second 'Little Ice Age' on Earth
Time: Claim: Sunspots to Disappear, Global Cooling May Ensue

There's a simple problem with this claim. Let's assume that grand minima really do cool Earth's climate: not every climate scientist is convinced of that, but for the sake of argument let's go with it. Now the question becomes: how much do they cool it, and for how long?

The straightforward answer is: not enough. Last year researchers modelled what would happen to global temperatures if a grand minimum started now and continued until 2100. They found that it would lower temperatures by 0.3 °C at most.

That's not enough to compensate for our greenhouse gas emissions, which are set to raise temperatures by 2-4.5 °C by 2100. So in the most optimistic scenario, in which the grand minimum has the biggest effect possible and emissions their smallest, a rise of 2 °C would be reduced to 1.7 °C.

That isn't a new ice age: it's a slightly less severe heatwave.
 

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Reminds me of this

time_iceage1.jpg


The days before global warming became a fad :eek:
 
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