Supreme court justice Antonin Scalia dies: legal and political worlds react

[RanzB]

Yep, clone of pam32.

Shot. Makes sense.

 

[The_Assimilator]

https://youtu.be/0DFqXFgUEi0

Ah, the Thurmond Rule. Which isn't even a law. Or anything but bulls**t invoked by a political party when an opposing party's candidate is currently president.

 

[Greylor]

Trevor Noah actually nailed this one yesterday.

The Republicans are trying to block it because it suits them, and have claimed the opposite when it was them trying to push through a Supreme Court judge. The standard response from people is that it's just Republicans being Republicans....

Except the Democrats have done exactly the same thing. They too have done exactly what the Republicans are currently doing when it was the Republicans trying to push through a Judge.

Both parties are major hypocrites on this one.

 

[Greylor]

Ah, the Thurmond Rule. Which isn't even a law. Or anything but bulls**t invoked by a political party when an opposing party's candidate is currently president.

I read that the Thurmond Rule (more of a suggestion) only applies when it's in the last 6 months of a presidency, so it doesn't apply here.

 

[Hamish McPanji]

Trevor Noah actually nailed this one yesterday.

The Republicans are trying to block it because it suits them, and have claimed the opposite when it was them trying to push through a Supreme Court judge. The standard response from people is that it's just Republicans being Republicans....

Except the Democrats have done exactly the same thing. They too have done exactly what the Republicans are currently doing when it was the Republicans trying to push through a Judge.

Both parties are major hypocrites on this one.

I think that is largely the reason why people are wanting change. Unfortunately the systems are so skewed towards the 2 larger parties, that anyone who does want to make those changes cannot do so independently

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Justice Scalia spent his last hours with members of this secretive society of elite hunters

When Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia died 12 days ago at a West Texas ranch, he was among high-ranking members of an exclusive fraternity for hunters called the International Order of St. Hubertus, an Austrian society that dates back to the 1600s.

After Scalia’s death Feb. 13, the names of the 35 other guests at the remote resort, along with details about Scalia’s connection to the hunters, have remained largely unknown. A review of public records shows that some of the men who were with Scalia at the ranch are connected through the International Order of St. Hubertus, whose members gathered at least once before at the same ranch for a celebratory weekend.

Members of the worldwide, male-only society wear dark-green robes emblazoned with a large cross and the motto “Deum Diligite Animalia Diligentes,” which means “Honoring God by honoring His creatures,” according to the group’s website. Some hold titles, such as Grand Master, Prior and Knight Grand Officer. The Order’s name is in honor of Hubert, the patron saint of hunters and fishermen.

 

[Hamish McPanji]

Justice Scalia spent his last hours with members of this secretive society of elite hunters

Somehow reminds me of the movie Eyed Wide Shut. At least he died happy?

 

[RanzB]

Except the Democrats have done exactly the same thing. They too have done exactly what the Republicans are currently doing when it was the Republicans trying to push through a Judge.

I'm sure you're right, but could you point me to an instance when the majority of the Democratic Senators came out in favour of blocking any nominee from a Republican President's last term?

 

[Splinter]

"Abundantly clear now" Haha.. It was abundantly clear ten days ago. But it was enjoyable watching you make a fool of yourself. Again.

Damn - I was wondering where Arthur had disappeared to. So, he is now political as well as a staunch RC?

 

[Greylor]

I'm sure you're right, but could you point me to an instance when the majority of the Democratic Senators came out in favour of blocking any nominee from a Republican President's last term?

I don't have links to it or the time to track them down. Trevor Noah had video clips of it on the Daily Show a few days ago. You could probably find his segment on it on Youtube.

 

[konfab]

I'm sure you're right, but could you point me to an instance when the majority of the Democratic Senators came out in favour of blocking any nominee from a Republican President's last term?

Chuck Schumer says this:

We cannot afford to see Justice Stevens replaced by another Roberts or Justice Ginsburg replaced by another Alito. Given the track of this President and the experience of obfuscation at hearings, with respect to the Supreme Court at least, I will recommend to my colleagues that we should not confirm any Bush nominee to the Supreme Court except in extraordinary circumstances. They must prove by actions not words that they are in the mainstream rather than we have to prove that they are not

Source

Watch him say it here as well.
Clip showing this

 

[RanzB]

I don't have links to it or the time to track them down. Trevor Noah had video clips of it on the Daily Show a few days ago. You could probably find his segment on it on Youtube.

I can't access the video, but an article mentions that Obama voted to filibuster Justice Alito’s confirmation. So... Not the same thing then.

Chuck Schumer says this:

Source

Watch him say it here as well.
Clip showing this

So... Not what I asked.

 

[Greylor]

I can't access the video, but an article mentions that Obama voted to filibuster Justice Alito’s confirmation. So... Not the same thing then.

So... Not what I asked.

Not sure what point you're trying to make. The Obama filibuster wasn't the only thing Noah was pointing at.

Find the video, or find when the show is airing there and watch it. Goddam Comedy Central and it's stupid "you can't view this in your country" crap

 

[RanzB]

Not sure what point you're trying to make.

Clearly. You seem to think Senators blocking a particular nominee is the same as Senators pledging to block any nominee from a President in his last year in office.

Hint: It's not the same.

 

[konfab]

I can't access the video, but an article mentions that Obama voted to filibuster Justice Alito’s confirmation. So... Not the same thing then.




So... Not what I asked.

You asked a loaded question.

You asked for evidence of a majority of democrat senators voting to block any candidate the republicans put out.

That is disingenuous as the only time you would know would be when an actual candidate has been nominated.

Edit: to put it more clearly. Find me a motion that the senators made that clearly stated they will not nominate any candidate from the other side.

(This applies to both sides of the house BTW)

 

[RanzB]

You asked a loaded question.

You asked for evidence of a majority of democrat senators voting to block any candidate the republicans put out.

That is disingenuous as the only time you would know would be when an actual candidate has been nominated.

Not at all. You haven't read the question properly.

I'm sure you're right, but could you point me to an instance when the majority of the Democratic Senators came out in favour of blocking any nominee from a Republican President's last term?

 

[konfab]

Not at all. You haven't read the question properly.

Read my edit.

 

[RanzB]

Read my edit.

You still haven't read the question properly.

 

[Greylor]

Clearly. You seem to think Senators blocking a particular nominee is the same as Senators pledging to block any nominee from a President in his last year in office.

Hint: It's not the same.

Jeepers dude.

I pointed out that the Daily Show had shown that the Democrats had attempted to, in the past, also block the President from electing Supreme Court Justices. That is all I did.

Somehow, from that, without seeing the video, you manufactured an opinion for me using an incident I never specifically alluded to, and then argued against that opinion in a condescending manner that implies that I'm some kind of moron for having the opinion that you manufactured for me.

That's some Grade A internet discussion technique you've got there.

If I come across the video at some point, I'll link it for you.

 

[konfab]

You still haven't read the question properly.

You said:

I'm sure you're right, but could you point me to an instance when the majority of the Democratic Senators came out in favour of blocking any nominee from a Republican President's last term?

When they do it is irrelevant. If Scalia kicked the bucket 2 years ago, the Republicans would still have blocked it.