Swedish PM says integration of immigrants has failed, fueled gang crime

[Grant]

The problem with your argument is that nobody forces you to wear pants, use the Roman alphabet or all the science and medicine European colonization has afforded you, you choose to keep it because it improved your life. You're a beneficiary.

Which in turn applies to Corelli's argument - on which you are conspicuously silent.

 

[Grant]

Millions told them it would not work. They did not listen. The government should be overthrown by its people, leaders arrested, prosecuted in courts and executed for treason. New governments should be established and immigrants deported and borders closed down tightly - even if it means for tourism and work for at least a decade or two in order to normalize the situation in the country.

It's probably time to put that bottle of klipdrift away.

 

[Pak Fa Fui]

Once again dishonesty. But I get it, you're emotionally rather than logically-inclined therefore this is all you can observe. All my argument is, is that non-European South Africans don't have a moral high ground from which to condemn Europeans or imply Europeans are especially guilty for their respective past in this country based on a particular model of human relations, when pre-settlement South Africa practiced cannibalism, slavery, genocide and eugenics.

Aw man you so cool
the slaves made themselves slaves
so profound so deep so snooty
what other bed time stories you tell your self

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Not a conservative, and if I'm a "loon" prove it with a coherent argument. You're incapable of doing so.

Just keep posting...you're doing that part yourself.

Also: using buzzwords and strings of adjectives does not make your arguments any more coherent than mine.

You've merely mastered the art of talking mostly kak in a grandiose way.

 

[Howdy]

@ShaunSA

TLDR - we now talking about African slavery, cannibalism and muti murders showing that black people are inherently uncivlised and should therefore be grateful for any indignities heaped upon them.

Pssst - but now we also now I know why you guys have such long schlongs. Boksburg and Brakpan are going to have a problem ...

 

[Craig_]

Has Mrs Andersson tried donning a suicide vest and making the immigrants feel welcome?

....

 

[Craig_]

When my kids were that age you invited everyone or no one from school - if you wanted a specific school friend invited you had to invite them outside of the school context.

My son's 9th birthday party is this sunday, he invited his school friends(9). He has 25 kids in his class, no way am I inviting all of them, some he doesn't even like, why would he want them at his party? Life has always been like this, you invite who you like and stuff the rest.

 

[ForceFate]

My son's 9th birthday party is this sunday, he invited his school friends(9). He has 25 kids in his class, no way am I inviting all of them, some he doesn't even like, why would he want them at his party? Life has always been like this, you invite who you like and stuff the rest.

It doesn't always work out that way. While the child may decide not to invite the neighbour's spawn, parents may be mortified by the child's decision and take it upon themselves to extend the invitation.

 

[deathprophet215]

Which in turn applies to Corelli's argument - on which you are conspicuously silent.

Honestly haven't looked at his comment before you mentioned it, but upon having read it you're incorrect. My argument is that Southern Africans benefitted from colonialism based on observable metrics, whereas the only benefit derived from third-world immigration to the aforementioned European countries is by means of population growth.

Then again with the onset of automation and advancement of robotics, which will lead to less people being employed and less of a requirement for population replacement to sustain the economy, one could argue that even that is no longer a benefit, which is probably why the UK is starting to experiment with methods to avoid this problem.

To imply my argument applies to Corelli's proves you haven't read it, how exactly did modern immigration from the Middle East and impoverished Africa advance European societies, and how is it an overall benefit? Once again the only metric by which one would judge this to be a case would be population growth, which I've already pointed out is no longer the case. All other metrics, crime, violence, rape, murder, religious violence and ethnic tensions are up as a result. When they arrived in Europe, didn't they do so precisely because European societies were more advanced? Are you implying that Europeans settled in Southern Africa because Southern Africa was more advanced?

Either you're completely incorrect, or you haven't properly explained your position.

 

[Craig_]

It doesn't always work out that way. While the child may decide not to invite the neighbour's spawn, parents may be mortified by the child's decision and take it upon themselves to extend the invitation.

Nope, my son actually requested that my parents-in-law comes but not bring his cousin with because said cousin doesn't have manners and will ruin his party. I will not force him to have people around that he doesn't like on a day I'm trying to make special for him. I'm still undecided on how to convey this message to the in laws though.

It doesn't sound like you have kids, but if you do you should extend them the same respect you expect from them.

 

[ForceFate]

Nope, my son actually requested that my parents-in-law comes but not bring his cousin with because said cousin doesn't have manners and will ruin his party. I will not force him to have people around that he doesn't like on a day I'm trying to make special for him. I'm still undecided on how to convey this message to the in laws though.

It doesn't sound like you have kids, but if you do you should extend them the same respect you expect from them.

Clever child.

Outsource the responsibility. Talk your wife into doing it.

 

[Pak Fa Fui]

Honestly haven't looked at his comment before you mentioned it, but upon having read it you're incorrect. My argument is that Southern Africans benefitted from colonialism based on observable metrics, whereas the only benefit derived from third-world immigration to the aforementioned European countries is by means of population growth.

Then again with the onset of automation and advancement of robotics, which will lead to less people being employed and less of a requirement for population replacement to sustain the economy, one could argue that even that is no longer a benefit, which is probably why the UK is starting to experiment with methods to avoid this problem.

To imply my argument applies to Corelli's proves you haven't read it, how exactly did modern immigration from the Middle East and impoverished Africa advance European societies, and how is it an overall benefit? Once again the only metric by which one would judge this to be a case would be population growth, which I've already pointed out is no longer the case. All other metrics, crime, violence, rape, murder, religious violence and ethnic tensions are up as a result. When they arrived in Europe, didn't they do so precisely because European societies were more advanced? Are you implying that Europeans settled in Southern Africa because Southern Africa was more advanced?

Either you're completely incorrect, or you haven't properly explained your position.

Thank you for making South Africa civilised

 

[deathprophet215]

Nope, my son actually requested that my parents-in-law comes but not bring his cousin with because said cousin doesn't have manners and will ruin his party. I will not force him to have people around that he doesn't like on a day I'm trying to make special for him. I'm still undecided on how to convey this message to the in laws though.

It doesn't sound like you have kids, but if you do you should extend them the same respect you expect from them.

That's the reality of his ideology, everyone should have a piece of your child's cake, regardless of whether they demoralize, discriminate against him, or physically abuse him. All so that you can avoid offending people. What a cowardly philosophy, the same philosophy that ironically led to the problems that Swedes currently face, although I confess I think their current predicament is a little poetically ironic.

 

[deathprophet215]

Thank you for making South Africa civilised

You're welcome, I accept cryptocurrency as compensation.

 

[Craig_]

Clever child.

Outsource the responsibility. Talk your wife into doing it.

If she says it they'll be angry, if I do it it should be okay-ish.

 

[Ponderer]

That's the reality of his ideology, everyone should have a piece of your child's cake, regardless of whether they demoralize, discriminate against him, or physically abuse him. All so that you can avoid offending people. What a cowardly philosophy, the same philosophy that ironically led to the problems that Swedes currently face, although I confess I think their current predicament is a little poetically ironic.

This ^^^.
Entitlement.

 

[Pak Fa Fui]

You're welcome, I accept cryptocurrency as compensation.

Ooh a Japanese invention.
poetically ironic

 

[ShaunSA]

If she says it they'll be angry, if I do it it should be okay-ish.

Sounds like they shouldn't be there either

 

[Craig_]

LOL

No way this is real, looks fake as fck. Plus those guys looks like they came from many generations of in breeding...

 

[Craig_]

Sounds like they shouldn't be there either

Sadly you can't chose your family, and my little one really wants them here.