This is going to increasingly be the approach if the government wants us to treat them as adults, they are expected to behave like an adult. If you are in any work situation in your adult live no one is going to beg you to do anything, you do your work as your boss requires or you get a warning, simple as that.The problem here is that he teacher actually cared for some reason. I once had a teacher who was really like "**** it" and just and actually made space at the back for the people to do what ever they wanted.
Basically - front of the class if you want to be taught and back of the class if you didn't get 2 shits.
Funny enough, this would actually make the class "smaller" so he could focus on the diligent students in the front.
He'd also usually give extra lessons after class or lunch time to those who actually were struggling.
That would apply when it has been established the child genuinely does not want to learn. The situation is not always that simple, as much as people would like it to be.the problem is it is utterly futile to want to teach a child that does not want to learn. The sad reality is no teacher, no matter the quality can do much for these children. You do the best you can for the children under your care, but unfortunately, you can bring a horse to water but you cannot force it to drink.
It is well established that that not only doesn't work, but makes learning even less likely.In the old days you got a moer if you did not do your work
In many companies the manager passes the buck on to the employees even though most of the time the real problem is the manager.I agree with that, it is a problem one faces in all spheres of life. In my job I get penalised as manager when my reportees don't deliver. Are teachers subject to the same criteria when it comes to learner performance.
yeah I call BS on the "doesn't work, makes learning less likely" claim, some soyboy snowflake must've dreamt that upI remember school a bit differently. You didn't listen, you get moered, then suddenly you listen. Worked a treat.
A fair few of my school friends just ended up doing less homework after a beating, don't underestimate the petulance of some children, they may surprise you.yeah I call BS on the "doesn't work, makes learning less likely" claim, some soyboy snowflake must've dreamt that up
funny how our big education crises with low standards, violent protests, burning down buildings and all the other crap only happened in a time when corporal punishment has been abolished ...
Right, so the teacher didn't have a strong enough grip and swing thenThey were beaten until the teacher's hands were raw, they had a defiant air about them that would have made Ghandi proud.
They responded well enough to the kind female teachers who did not beat them.Right, so the teacher didn't have a strong enough grip and swing then
In all fairness though, a student THAT defiant is not going to respond to any kind of discipline.
Beating a child is not a way to teach them respect, it's about teaching them consequences and accountability.They responded well enough to the kind female teachers who did not beat them.
Really, I don't know how much of these last posts of yours were hyperbole, but I can assure you if you beat a child he/she is not going to respect you. People tend not to 'respect' their abusers. The abuser may function in a system that allows his abuse but I can assure you respect is something he never gets.
I have zero respect for the people who beat boys at my old high school, granted they are all unemployed or dead, but I have ZERO respect for any institution that allows for the abuse of children. I'm really sorry that your abuser indoctrinated you with the idea that you beatings were good for you, but they simply were not. You can absolutely teach a child very successfully without ever needing to lay a hand on him/her.
There is a world of difference between abuse and corporal punishment fyi. One is done for the sake of it, the other is measured and applied appropriately when warranted.People tend not to 'respect' their abusers
More at : https://www.iol.co.za/capeargus/news/sa-teachers-union-supports-teacher-in-sanssouci-slap-video-19239893Cape Town - The South African Teacher’s Union (SAOU) on Monday threw its weight behind a San Souci High School teacher caught slapping a pupil in a video that has gone viral.
The union in a statement said it is aware of the current debate and concomitant legal issues surrounding the incident that took place between the pupil and a teacher at the Cape Town high school.
While the teacher concerned is a member of the SAOU, the union said, she is employed by the school’s Governing Body (GB) and as such, the immediate processes of enquiry into the case and its resolution, fall within the auspices of the governing body.
In a video doing the rounds on social media, it shows the teacher engaged in an argument with the pupil. The teacher can be heard admonishing the girl for having her cellphone at school in contravention of the school's code of conduct.
It's completely unnecessary as a means to teach consequences. Neither should they be fearful of consequences. Fear need never come into it.Beating a child is not a way to teach them respect, it's about teaching them consequences and accountability.
A child shouldn't fear the person, but be fearful of the consequence, whether it be a beating, or expulsion or punishment that is going to have consequences. They need to learn this early on, and respect the institution that administers it.
Research shows it doesn't work. I'll trust the science over your anecdote that only proves some people appeared to be listening and does not demonstrate improved learning or memory.I remember school a bit differently. You didn't listen, you get moered, then suddenly you listen. Worked a treat.