Television Licenses - The Truth Revealed

[Quest10n]

Is it really such an abstract concept to grasp?

No, just plain ignorance . They will grasp the concept once in court and paying the fine anyway.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Yes it is an abstract concept, BECAUSE the license fee is paid to the "Corporation"... If the Corporation ceases to exist, then the legal requirement to pay a license fee falls away.

 

[HapticSimian]

By your logic, the next time my car needs mechanical attention, I'm taking it straight to the local municipal licencing offices. Those buggers will sort me out, they 'sold' me the little round disc that's stuck to the windscreen!

 

[ToxicBunny]

Sorry what?..

The Broadcasting Act refers SPECIFICALLY to the "Corporation" which is defined as below

"Corporation"
means the South African Broadcasting Corporation Limited upon conversion of the old Corporation in terms of section 8A of this Act;

Why does the local municipality have to do with your car needing mechanical attention?
If you're goign to argue a point, please at least ATTEMPT to do so intelligently.

 

[HapticSimian]

Sorry what?..

The Broadcasting Act refers SPECIFICALLY to the "Corporation" which is defined as below



Why does the local municipality have to do with your car needing mechanical attention?
If you're goign to argue a point, please at least ATTEMPT to do so intelligently.

How can I argue a point intelligently when you refuse to do so? As stated ad nauseum in this thread, the SABC is merely the current point of payment. If they disappear, it gets moved onto your water & lights or whatever channel the government appoint to take over the responsibility.

 

[ToxicBunny]

No, SABC is not merely the current POINT of payment..

They are the legally mandated entity that receives the payment...

If they disappear there is no legal entity mandated to receive the payment... And no, they can't just willy nilly move the fee elsewhere since they would have to repeal that section of the Broadcasting Act etc etc etc.. or do you fail to understand how the law works?

 

[HapticSimian]

No, SABC is not merely the current POINT of payment..

They are the legally mandated entity that receives the payment...

If they disappear there is no legal entity mandated to receive the payment... And no, they can't just willy nilly move the fee elsewhere since they would have to repeal that section of the Broadcasting Act etc etc etc.. or do you fail to understand how the law works?

Not saying it would happen willy nilly... regardless, unless the SABC does actually disappear and is not merely restructured your point is moot. There is no conceivable way that we would be without a state broadcaster in some shape or form in the near-future - not when it serves the vast majority of the population and exists because of legislation.

 

[icyrus]

Don't you love the smell of astroturfing in the morning?

 

[ToxicBunny]

Given the current financial state of the SABC there is a VERY conceivable chance that the SABC will cease to exist in the not too distant future, and if that does happen, there will be a few months at the VERY least where there would be no legally mandated entity to receive the license fees...

 

[riscbroker]

You are a little - the SABC only acts as point of collection for tv licenses. From there the money goes to the government at large, from where a percentage is reapportioned to the SABC.

You are one of the people that suffer under the misconception that the fees go to them in its entirety, whilst this is simply not true. Regardless of your opinion, it does not release you from your obligation under the law.

and this from post #63..

8) All television licence fees collected by the Corporation must be used by the Corporation solely for the public service to be provided by the Corporation.

???

 

[HapticSimian]

Accepted - what I'm saying is that the need for a public broadcaster would not go away with the disappearance of the SABC. Our pitiful economy cannot support a network of pure commercial broadcasters. By implication, the most I see happening is the entire SABC being reinvented, again, like the Broadcasting Act was meant to do with the pre-'94 SAUK in the first place.

The currently valid obligation to pay a yearly fee still stands apart from whatever may be happening in Auckland Park...

 

[HapticSimian]

and this from post #63..

8) All television licence fees collected by the Corporation must be used by the Corporation solely for the public service to be provided by the Corporation.

???

As in a later post, I admitted to my brain being a little rusty in that respect. I convoluted some statistic I read somewhere with regards to the apportioning of the R225 re what percentage goes where...

I'm trying to dig that information up.

 

[Snoob]

95% to the Gravy Train

 

[Budza]

Back to the question of "denaturing" my TV. I have a 42" flat-screen. It has HDMI etc, and co-ax.

I will pay R300, plus a "Certificate Fee" if neccessary. I will then be off the books, and in the long run will be saving ZARs. My question is, can the other inputs be decoded or whatever to receive a signal?

I have no wires/cables/decoders, just my PC plugged in, with no tuner card. (**cough torrents FTW cough**).

If I disable the co-ax (no great loss), is my TV rendered incapable of receiving a signal?

Anyone able to advise if they have had their set denatured and how it was done? This assumes the R300 is a once off charge....

 

[Paul_S]

Back to the question of "denaturing" my TV. I have a 42" flat-screen. It has HDMI etc, and co-ax.

I will pay R300, plus a "Certificate Fee" if neccessary. I will then be off the books, and in the long run will be saving ZARs. My question is, can the other inputs be decoded or whatever to receive a signal?

As far as I understand, components of the TV tuner are removed from the TV.
The fact that your TV can accept other video sources is irrelevant - all they want to be sure of is that you don't have a device that is capable of receiving and displaying public broadcasts (via the RF input + built in tuner).

 

[Budza]

Ja... I would like to know if others have done it. If RF input is clamped shut with pliers, that means the tuner can't work.

Will they buy this?

 

[bboy]

My TV is broken, i don't intend to ever fix it,it can be thrown away, how do I stop paying a license?

 

[Budza]

With great difficulty. Read the thread.

EDIT: Not being sarcastic...

 

[Thugscub]

Off with the SABC heads.

 

[rebel998]

Enigma, you need a hobby bru.

Your opener reminds me of a speach by Dr.Buthelezi from the IFP.

So what happens if your license is paid up and they (SABC/Govt) cannot provide the service? Can we drag them to court as they do us when we cannot pay?