Telkom and MTN in network outsourcing, sharing "Heads of Agreement"

I think Telkom Mobile has been really dumb in giving their network to MTN.

Only time will tell.

And don't bargain on roaming with your 5GB data on MTN's network.....you might be in for one hell of a nasty billshock.

If I was Vodacom or CellC, I would sue for anti-competitive behaviour.
 
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So can we use Afrihost data on Telkom Mobile 3G? If so good things are going to happen. Also how about the R149 2+1GB Telkom Mobile data be able to use on the MTN network.....

Wow this will be very interesting.....

If this will work then it will be hard to choose between TM and MTN and here is why.

MTN contract that can use afrihost data on both MTN and Telkom Mobile networks....
Telkom Mobile sim sonke + internet staterpack + R149 2+1 data bundle be able to use MTN LTE and 3G where Telkom Mobile does not have coverage.... So LTE on your phone with Telkom Mobile then......

I hope it goes that way cause that will be super awesome and basically kick Cell C HARD.
 
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And in other news, telkom is closing unprofitable exchanges http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/601624-Telkom-may-close-many-exchanges-replace-copper-with-wireless-services

This is contributed for debate with the intention that it generates discussion so please shoot it out of the Sky/Criticise/tear apart and rebuild. At the end of the day, the same or better user experience (voice/data) should be delivered to towns that are loosing their copper exchanges, for the same of lower prices.


This is where ICASA needs to get its ducks in a row.

Telkom effectively have a "copper cable" monopoly in exchange for delivering "Communications services" to all the small dorpies

ICASA should allow this under the following conditions, because Telkom is effectively renaging on their "copper cable" monopoly in exchange for delivering "Communications services"

The Delivery of Communications services (via Copper Cable, LTE, TCP/IP over pidgeons etc) for the dorpies which are switched away from Copper should be "like for like" OR BETTER from a "cost and user experience" point of view.

"Copper/LTE" Voice packages should be the same at current or lower costs i.e. "Telkom Closer" Type Packages/Cost structure should still apply

"Copper/LTE" data Services should be the same at current or lower costs i.e ADSL Packages Cost Structure should still apply with uncapped data.

Where Telkom/MTN provide data service's in an area where a copper exchange is shutdown, MTN/Telkom must provision data service at current or better ADSL ISP costs (Remember that there will/should be no copper maintenance/rental charges as their is no copper provisioned.

I suspect that MTN is seeing a captive "exclusive/monopoly" market where the Copper exhanges may be closed. The user/budget experience in these areas should not suffer. It should/must get better.
 
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kingrob said:
I think Telkom Mobile has been really dumb in giving their network to MTN.

Only time will tell.

And don't bargain on roaming with your 5GB data on MTN's network.....you might be in for one hell of a nasty billshock.

If I was Vodacom or CellC, I would sue for anti-competitive behaviour.
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Cell C were all talk trying to get Telkom to take their network, and Telkom had a look and went no thank you. CellC will be upset they got left out with useless network which they don't even own anymore.
 
Telkom's internal culture doesn't allow competitive management of a mobile network. You can't have a technician leaving early on a Friday and waiting till 9am Monday when a base station is down (as I have experienced with home connections). MTN has the culture to take this on for Telkom.

Telkom will also save a load of capex which would spook investors. If they ever grew, they could reconsider

In exchange, their 2.3 Ghz will surey be a bonus for MTN, which has been refarming 900 to try to get some LTE going
 
MickeyD said:
Difficult to speculate on what will transpire...
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yep we need more details

also it is really looking like MTN have realized that the CTR challenge will not produce the results that they want and getting an investment stream is an absolute necessity, hopefully VC will realize the same thing and the prospects that Neotel offer them ...
 
A little hypocritical if i may add... Just last week Maseko said "With Vodacom and MTN standing in the way of lowering mobile termination rates, I believe you are standing in the way of SA’s future"

I know its a different issue here but really... Sleeping with the enemy?
 
Toby said:
And in other news, telkom is closing unprofitable exchanges http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/601624-Telkom-may-close-many-exchanges-replace-copper-with-wireless-services

This is contributed for debate with the intention that it generates discussion so please shoot it out of the Sky/Criticise/tear apart and rebuild. At the end of the day, the same or better user experience (voice/data) should be delivered to towns that are loosing their copper exchanges, for the same of lower prices.


This is where ICASA needs to get its ducks in a row.

Telkom effectively have a "copper cable" monopoly in exchange for delivering "Communications services" to all the small dorpies

ICASA should allow this under the following conditions, because Telkom is effectively renaging on their "copper cable" monopoly in exchange for delivering "Communications services"

The Delivery of Communications services (via Copper Cable, LTE, TCP/IP over pidgeons etc) for the dorpies which are switched away from Copper should be "like for like" OR BETTER from a "cost and user experience" point of view.

"Copper/LTE" Voice packages should be the same at current or lower costs i.e. "Telkom Closer" Type Packages/Cost structure should still apply

"Copper/LTE" data Services should be the same at current or lower costs i.e ADSL Packages Cost Structure should still apply with uncapped data.

Where Telkom/MTN provide data service's in an area where a copper exchange is shutdown, MTN/Telkom must provision data service at current or better ADSL ISP costs (Remember that there will/should be no copper maintenance/rental charges as their is no copper provisioned.

I suspect that MTN is seeing a captive "exclusive/monopoly" market where the Copper exhanges may be closed. The user/budget experience in these areas should not suffer. It should/must get better.
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We are already debating this issue in the very thread that you quoted... ;)
 
Telecoms is not a LOVE game.............

Slamz said:
A little hypocritical if i may add... Just last week Maseko said "With Vodacom and MTN standing in the way of lowering mobile termination rates, I believe you are standing in the way of SA’s future"

I know its a different issue here but really... Sleeping with the enemy?
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Sorry to advise but Telecoms is not a LOVE game.............
Today you F_ _ _ me and next week I S_ _ _ you.

Its a whores game Nobody loves Nobody its all about the money...................

The Operators will do anything to get their hands on your money ............Wait and See let the CTR get passed.

Hope we have all new Operators Getting LTE spectrum this will definitely put a spanner in the works.
 
As long as they don't change my current contract with TM, I'll be happy. It's actually a shame TM can't carry on alone. They're not the best right now, but they have some potential.
 
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