Telkom unconvinced loop unbundling will help investment

justinct

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Im still pissed off at that,its insane.
They want another 2years for loop unbundling. omf wth.
 

stoke

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<Q>"We do not believe that it will contribute to an increase of investment in infrastructure," Telkom corporate communications executive Lulu Letlape said.</Q>
Well - who asked for your opinion on the matter anyway teklom ?

Seriously, by making a statement like this, teklom are hinting and implying that they [teklom] are going to stop investing in infrastructure if unbundling takes place.
They are once again trying to threaten us.
This strategy belies the fact that teklom is racing like mad to get as much infrastructure into place before unbundling happens, so that the SNO is FORCED to use teklom's infrastructure, at teklom's agree'd "FAIR" price.

Such a bunch of greedy decieving bastardz. :mad:
 

mystic

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Geographical distance to US and Europe not cause of high prices

Some elements of the media also contribute to the spin by publishing articles without any proper analysis behind it. Below is an example in today's Business Day where a article (http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/technology.aspx?ID=BD4A89434) has the following heading:

Agreement that cheap broadband in SA is ‘unrealistic’

Also in the article:

The geographic nature of SA and its distance from the main internet lines of the US and Europe are major cost barriers, the players said.

SA would not see the low prices enjoyed in Korea, where everyone lives in easy-to-connect high rise buildings, said Telkom’s technical product development executive, Steve Lewis. “At the end of Africa putting in undersea cables costs money, which has to be recovered,” he said.

Telkom understood the need to make broadband available to everyone to boost the economy and improve education, the company said, and would continue to cut costs.

“We are not going to see the low ‘all-you-can-eat’ prices in SA that you see in the northern hemisphere,” said Brian Seligmann, MTN’s manager for 3G services. “The size of the country we have to cover is vastly bigger than any European country, yet they have more subscribers. But the more subscribers we get the more economies of scale work in favour for lower prices,” he said.

I'm really tired of the argument that our geographic distance from the US and Europe is the cause of our high broadband prices. How is it possible for countries such as Australia and New Zealand who are even more distant from the US and Europe to have much lower priced broadband offerings?

Yet it seems to have become a mantra that our geographical position is the cause of our high bandwidth prices. We all know what the reason for high prices are: Lack of competition. There's no reason why our broadband pricing can't at least fall to the same level as in Australia and New Zealand.
 

RoosTa

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There's no reason why our broadband pricing can't at least fall to the same level as in Australia and New Zealand.
Or even Mauritius (~R400 Uncapped 512kb ADSL) using the SAFE cable.
 

Sneeky

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South Africa cannot afford 2 more months of this, let alone 2 years.
 

ebis

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LaRoosTa said:
Or even Mauritius (~R400 Uncapped 512kb ADSL) using the SAFE cable.
/me wonders how Telkom would respond to THAT.
 

doobiwan

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I think Mauritius is definitely the best reference. comparison
 

savage

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Telkom should just stop being a sour puss.... No phun intended :p
 

AntiThesis

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How odd. Telkom feels that Telkom losing out on business is a bad thing. :p
 

Darkling

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mystic said:
Some elements of the media also contribute to the spin by publishing articles without any proper analysis behind it. Below is an example in today's Business Day where a article (http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/technology.aspx?ID=BD4A89434) has the following heading:

Write to business day telling them why you feel they should have used a different spin. Obviously when you get a monkey and a typewriter together, the monkey is just going to retype whatever piece of paper the Telkom *spit* spin machine hands him. At least thats what will happen until WE tell them the TRUTH of what they are printing.
 

gljackson

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Now does Telkom really expect us to believe that they were planning on investing in infrastructure during the two years between the SNO's arrival and the undundling of the local loop. - um I think not

Using Telkoms own logic - why should they invest in the infrastrucure for two years, when its going to be unbundled anyway...

unbundle it now.
 

Slinky511nx7

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gljackson said:
...Using Telkoms own logic - why should they invest in the infrastrucure for two years, when its going to be unbundled anyway...

unbundle it now.

I second that!
 

Spamtheman

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Am I the only one who is starting to get pissed of with "journalists" who merely parrot press releases and couldn't be bothered to even fire up google or check facts. I'm even beginning to wonder if they even read the press releases before posting them.
 

stoke

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Nope - u're not the only one. I'm thinking of starting a public ignore these reporters list.
 

Spamtheman

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The really sad bit is that I've e-mailed the editors or left comments after reading these disguised PR messages detailing factual errors within articles and never once have I received a response. It's rather pathetic and I'm seeing it more and more.
 

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Word has it from the inside of the beast that they DO support LLU and think its a great idea, but they must come across as responsible to the shareholders, and oppose it.

It's just a show, puppet show for the shareholders unfortunately.
 
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