Telkom will switch east for equipment suppliers

Cheaper equipment?
Are Telkom going to pass on the savings to the consumers? :p
 
"The Chinese companies might replace other Western suppliers, including Siemens and Cisco Systems, Molotsane said, adding that Telkom had visited Huawei and ZTE plants in Shenzhen, southern China."

Dumping Cisco?! I hope Papi knows just how much of the network actually runs on Cisco hardware :/
 
This is inline with the government's cushyness with China.
 
Paul_S said:
Cheaper equipment?
Are Telkom going to pass on the savings to the consumers? :p
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Are you mad? Don't you know that the more money Telkom makes, the more Telkom is loved by us. Ask Lulu. :sick:
 
I hope that Telkom knows that when it comes to carrier grade quality you can't really match Siemens, Ericsson, etc. It had been proven before, that for a small operator it makes sense to go for the eastern manufacturers, but the moment you go nationwide, you better go with the big boys.
 
Why do we care if Telkom f&$& themselves. Neotel will be here for us to fall back on.
 
A bit of competition amongst suppliers is good for everyone.
 
/me sees an increase in phone/adsl problems in the future for telkom
 
Mmmmm... somewhere it was mentioned that the Gubbermint want to have the ability to eavesdrop on communications... will they look at this sort of thing?

hrm....
 
they want hardware very cheap cheap....don't know about quality...... :rolleyes:
 
Nod said:
I hope that Telkom knows that when it comes to carrier grade quality you can't really match Siemens, Ericsson, etc.
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Oh really ???.

Huawei was selected by BT as a preferred supplier of communications equipment for BT’s 21CN network strategy.
Huawei signed a Global Framework Agreement with Vodafone for mobile network infrastructure.
Motorola signed a deal with Huawei where Motorola distributes and installs Huawei's 3G equipment.
Huawei signed a deal worth 30 million euros (US$38.4million) with German operator Versatel Holding Deutschland GmbH.
Huawei will build a fibre-optic communication network based on Internet protocol (IP) for Versatel, Germany's third largest fixed-line operator.

Yep these Chinese fellows are really a mickey mouse outfit it seems ;).
 
MaD said:
"The Chinese companies might replace other Western suppliers, including Siemens and Cisco Systems, Molotsane said, adding that Telkom had visited Huawei and ZTE plants in Shenzhen, southern China."

Dumping Cisco?! I hope Papi knows just how much of the network actually runs on Cisco hardware :/
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I suspect that Sick Puppy Moletsane, was merely saying that the likes of Cisco & Siemens might be overtaken [in the market] by Chinese companies likes Huawei, I don't think Moletsane was saying that this might happen soon specifically within Telkodemonopolies, but rather a more general statement about a not too distant global trend.
MrG said:
Why do we care if Telkom f&$& themselves. Neotel will be here for us to fall back on.
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Where is NeOTel right now for me to fall back on?

Huawei should not be underestimated, and even NeOTel is likely to source its CDMA2000 EVDO whatsit equipment from Hauwei...
 
I thought Telkom's been using Huawei's stuff for years already?
 
Skip said:
I thought Telkom's been using Huawei's stuff for years already?
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The rumour was that the beast would be using Huawei Mini DSLAMs in them green&blue roadside dead-body boxes [some of which have been white-washed lately :eek:], but nothing much seems to have happened to shorten the local copper loop for ADSL lines - at least not in my area...
 
Sneeky said:
This is inline with the government's cushyness with China.
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Yip this news coming during the same time as the censorship of porn by the SAFPB. This new found love affair of theirs with China is very convenient I must say :rolleyes:
 
Huawei and zte have proven their quality over the world.... i dont think previous posts of "being cushy with china" and "look east like zim" are warranted. It actually makes no sense and lacks any logic whatsoever...

The cushy western companies like the Erikson, Cisco, Siemens, Nokia's etc. have been bleeding the operators and ripping them off all these years... The Chinese have proven to be more cost effective and with better management of their resources, can provide quality that is equal and in many cases way superior. Operators all over the world have realised this, USA, UK, Europe, India, singapore...
A bit of competition for those vendors that were sitting in a comfort zone is very much a good thing...... This is a global economy now and the market has to be shared by every1. Only the best will survive. Now erikson will need to pull up their socks to keep business........

This is the best decision telkom has made in years....... no actually ever..

Perfect example of what true competition can do.

not jst telkom, thats changing vendors. ALL 3 mobile operators are doing the same, and going with pretty much the same chinese vendors...
 
Rendan, Lacks logic? How so?
You say that they are producing products equal to or better than their western counterparts, I am not disagreeing with this at all and in fact stated that competition is good for everyone at the end of the day in post #9 of this thread.
The cushy relationship that is being nurtured between China and SA is no secret. The 2 countries are looking at all sorts of avenues to increase bilateral trade and this is inline with that policy. I did not imply that it was a bad decision at all or that the equipment was inferior or substandard.
Your last sentence just strengthens the view that business in SA are now increasingly looking east for solutions.

extract from a speech made in 2005 by the Chinese Ambassador Liu Guijin.
II. China and South Africa: Partners in Cooperation

I am gratified to have witnessed during my tenure in this great rainbow nation the rapid yet sustained growth of mutually beneficial cooperation between our two countries. Thanks to the concerted efforts on both sides, we have well exemplified the true meaning of "strategic partnership". Despite the short time span since the establishment of formal diplomatic ties, the two countries have managed to become each other's major trading partners.

In 2004, bilateral trade volume nearly surpassed US$ 6 billion, an increase of 52.8% over the previous year. China's export to and import from South Africa grew 45.5% and 60.9% respectively. As for investment, the total volume of two-way investment between China and South Africa is now well above US$ 500 million. South African conglomerates such as Anglo-American, SAB-Miller, Khumba Resources and Naspers have made substantial presence in China. Of specific importance inter alia is the Letter of Intent signed last year between Sasol and a consortium of Chinese companies including Shenhua Group on the feasibility study of the first phase of a "coal-to-fuel conversion" programme. Sappi, the world's largest fine paper producer, injected some US$ 58 million in an expansion project in China. Chinese investors, on the other hand, have by no means been lagging far behind. TV set and other home appliance manufactured with Chinese investment and technology have already secured a niche on the South African market. Also of particular importance are new and expanded Ferro-chrome joint venture projects, with investment from JISCO (Jiuquan Iron & Steel Corporation) and the second phase of China Iron & Steel Industry and Trade Group respectively.
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China's our newest bestest pal in the whole wide world.
 
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