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I like this website a lot. Lately my site has been getting a lot of exposure due to the Hellkom Logos create after I registered the telkomsucks.co.za. Please check it out and state your case.
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telkomsucks.co.za vs Hellkom
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<font color="blue">Hi again fellow adsl’ers, I have highlighted in red the insert below, an important factor that stands out.
We as fellow Telkom consumers should really stand together and prove the fact that we are not gonna stand for this type of abusive service any longer. “WE” the paying consumer have to stop being the sissies we have been, and stand up to our abusers, Show them that they only exist because of us and that they are dealing with our blood money, whom many people of South Africa work hard for ! That already has placed a curse on Telkom trust me. There Gravy Train will soon leave the tracks, what a shame.
But my message here is, We have to work together and I appeal to the bigger Companies of South Africa too, You are like the bigger brothers of the South African community, Lets all unite and make the Communications industry fare in the light of this beautiful Country.
They “Telkom” Say there is just a handful of us that are dissatisfied with there service, products and pricing, well my friends, just by looking at all the writings going on here, I beg to differ. I would say there is just a handful of the Telkom Top Dogs causing this discomfort, and am pretty sure we outnumber them by <font color="blue"><font color="blue">far. </font id="blue">
Lets stop being sissies, and start living free and fare !
Read the highlighted text in red below, and then decide how you feel.</font id="blue"></font id="blue">
<i>Laugh it Off may be South Africa’s culture jamming specialist, but it certainly doesn’t have a monopoly on the market. Enter Craig Stevens, an average bloke who simply had enough of Telkom’s “horrendous pricing and draconian policies” - enough to set up a website, called http://www.telkomsucks.co.za or (as he affectionately refers to it) “the Hellkom site” and start ‘jamming’ with Telkom’s logo.
Stevens explains that the site was created two months ago, “for people to have a laugh at Telkom”. The site proclaims proudly that it is intended as a “creative outlet for anyone and everyone who is dissatisfied with SA’s monopolistic telecoms operator”.
Short on information, the site is essentially an online version of one of LiO’s T-shirts – it publishes various versions of the Telkom logo, ranging from 'Hellkom: prices that will make you sweat' to 'Melk-hom
ns melk die publiek soos a Jersey-koei'.
“Regular folks such as myself have been downloading the logos and using them in different ways, from embroidering the Monopolydotcom logo onto the sleeves of a V-neck T-shirt to creating e-mail signatures with the Hellkom logo and a link to the site,” he says.
Unlike many of LiO’s creations, however, the site (and its creator) has an axe to grind.
In explaining his intense dissatisfaction with Telkom, Stevens quotes restrictive pricing structures, and claims that they are “holding our country’s economy back”.
“Our charges for connectivity and voice is way out of kilter with most of the world. For residential users an ADSL line here (with a 3GB download limit) costs R680 for line rental, excluding ISP charges of R250 upwards. That's a grand total of R930 per month for 3GB of surfing. Local and international upload and download is counted towards the limit. In London for example that same package, with no download limit, is £25. There are cheaper packages for £19, which have a 3GB download limit” he says.
He goes on to say that “even very poor people have to pay R70/month line rental … and very few people know that the Cellular networks' calls are routed from tower to tower via Telkom's land lines.. which is why the cell networks are so pricey.”
At the time of publication, Telkom claimed that it had not had sufficient time to look into the matter. Media relations specialist Ravin Maharaj released this brief statement:
''Telkom is looking into the matter and will decide in due course what action to take. All of Telkom's rights remain reserved''
Telkom, it must be noted, is a consistent high achiever in the Markinor/Sunday Times Top Brands Survey, having been voted in 2003 as the second most admired company in the South Africa, as well as the company that has done the most to uplift the lives of South Africans.
<font color="red">While one negative website may not change this fact, it’s not something that the company can afford to ignore.
Or is it? The site created by a dissatisifed BMW driver - www.bmwproblems.co.za - last year, is still operational. At the time, BMW SA's response was simply this: “In the general course of business it is unfortunately not possible to please everyone and I am sad to say that Mr Rios [the website's creator] is in this category." Despite the continued presence of the site, the storm seems to have quieted, and the website hasn't been updated since September last year.
It's also a commonly-held view that SAB would have been better served to ignore LiO's "Black Labour" T-shirts, instead of taking the creators to court and increasing the publicity around the issue a hundred-fold.
Could it be that, sometimes, it's best to simpy lie low and wait for the storm to pass?</font id="red"></i>
The Bitterness Of Poor Quality Lingers On Long After The Sweetness Of Cheap Prices Is Forgotten
We as fellow Telkom consumers should really stand together and prove the fact that we are not gonna stand for this type of abusive service any longer. “WE” the paying consumer have to stop being the sissies we have been, and stand up to our abusers, Show them that they only exist because of us and that they are dealing with our blood money, whom many people of South Africa work hard for ! That already has placed a curse on Telkom trust me. There Gravy Train will soon leave the tracks, what a shame.
But my message here is, We have to work together and I appeal to the bigger Companies of South Africa too, You are like the bigger brothers of the South African community, Lets all unite and make the Communications industry fare in the light of this beautiful Country.
They “Telkom” Say there is just a handful of us that are dissatisfied with there service, products and pricing, well my friends, just by looking at all the writings going on here, I beg to differ. I would say there is just a handful of the Telkom Top Dogs causing this discomfort, and am pretty sure we outnumber them by <font color="blue"><font color="blue">far. </font id="blue">
Lets stop being sissies, and start living free and fare !
Read the highlighted text in red below, and then decide how you feel.</font id="blue"></font id="blue">
<i>Laugh it Off may be South Africa’s culture jamming specialist, but it certainly doesn’t have a monopoly on the market. Enter Craig Stevens, an average bloke who simply had enough of Telkom’s “horrendous pricing and draconian policies” - enough to set up a website, called http://www.telkomsucks.co.za or (as he affectionately refers to it) “the Hellkom site” and start ‘jamming’ with Telkom’s logo.
Stevens explains that the site was created two months ago, “for people to have a laugh at Telkom”. The site proclaims proudly that it is intended as a “creative outlet for anyone and everyone who is dissatisfied with SA’s monopolistic telecoms operator”.
Short on information, the site is essentially an online version of one of LiO’s T-shirts – it publishes various versions of the Telkom logo, ranging from 'Hellkom: prices that will make you sweat' to 'Melk-hom
ns melk die publiek soos a Jersey-koei'.“Regular folks such as myself have been downloading the logos and using them in different ways, from embroidering the Monopolydotcom logo onto the sleeves of a V-neck T-shirt to creating e-mail signatures with the Hellkom logo and a link to the site,” he says.
Unlike many of LiO’s creations, however, the site (and its creator) has an axe to grind.
In explaining his intense dissatisfaction with Telkom, Stevens quotes restrictive pricing structures, and claims that they are “holding our country’s economy back”.
“Our charges for connectivity and voice is way out of kilter with most of the world. For residential users an ADSL line here (with a 3GB download limit) costs R680 for line rental, excluding ISP charges of R250 upwards. That's a grand total of R930 per month for 3GB of surfing. Local and international upload and download is counted towards the limit. In London for example that same package, with no download limit, is £25. There are cheaper packages for £19, which have a 3GB download limit” he says.
He goes on to say that “even very poor people have to pay R70/month line rental … and very few people know that the Cellular networks' calls are routed from tower to tower via Telkom's land lines.. which is why the cell networks are so pricey.”
At the time of publication, Telkom claimed that it had not had sufficient time to look into the matter. Media relations specialist Ravin Maharaj released this brief statement:
''Telkom is looking into the matter and will decide in due course what action to take. All of Telkom's rights remain reserved''
Telkom, it must be noted, is a consistent high achiever in the Markinor/Sunday Times Top Brands Survey, having been voted in 2003 as the second most admired company in the South Africa, as well as the company that has done the most to uplift the lives of South Africans.
<font color="red">While one negative website may not change this fact, it’s not something that the company can afford to ignore.
Or is it? The site created by a dissatisifed BMW driver - www.bmwproblems.co.za - last year, is still operational. At the time, BMW SA's response was simply this: “In the general course of business it is unfortunately not possible to please everyone and I am sad to say that Mr Rios [the website's creator] is in this category." Despite the continued presence of the site, the storm seems to have quieted, and the website hasn't been updated since September last year.
It's also a commonly-held view that SAB would have been better served to ignore LiO's "Black Labour" T-shirts, instead of taking the creators to court and increasing the publicity around the issue a hundred-fold.
Could it be that, sometimes, it's best to simpy lie low and wait for the storm to pass?</font id="red"></i>
The Bitterness Of Poor Quality Lingers On Long After The Sweetness Of Cheap Prices Is Forgotten
At the moment it seems there is just the forum, which needs some administration and cencorship I think.
Lots of swearing and promotion of software piracy.
This will just give Telkom an excuse not to take it seriously and some ammunition to shut you down/up.
Lots of swearing and promotion of software piracy.
This will just give Telkom an excuse not to take it seriously and some ammunition to shut you down/up.
<b>telkomsucks.0catch.com</b> is mine - the one with the logo's which everyone must print and do anything they like with.. I don't know where the confusion came in but in the articles written thus far about my site they have mistakenly referred to it as telkomsucks.co.za... pity tho, many people are missing out on a good laugh []
<b>telkomsucks.co.za</b> is another chap's site, hopefully he will put a logo or two on his front page... and the censorship.. ja well no fine as they would say hehehehe...
]<b>telkomsucks.co.za</b> is another chap's site, hopefully he will put a logo or two on his front page... and the censorship.. ja well no fine as they would say hehehehe...
MaD, suggest you take up Karny on his offer as 'telkomsucks.za.net' - I've been capped since the 10th, and couldn't access http://www.telkomsucks.0catch.com/ except through dial-up - presumably due to being hosted overseas and me being switched to the constrained international facility...
Afraid I couldnt help much with that... Local co-location is too much of a rip off for me to bother with []
Couldnt you just setup a dynamic DNS on your ADSL line though? I'd be a tad scared to host something like that within the country where the local ISP's can get their hands on it and be.. err... pursuaded (see bribed/threatend) to remove it..
- Colin Alston
colin at alston dot za dot org
"Warning: Use with extreme caution."
]Couldnt you just setup a dynamic DNS on your ADSL line though? I'd be a tad scared to host something like that within the country where the local ISP's can get their hands on it and be.. err... pursuaded (see bribed/threatend) to remove it..
- Colin Alston
colin at alston dot za dot org
"Warning: Use with extreme caution."